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Anyone want to help make a 'PureMessenger'?
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:30 pm
by lexvictory
Is there anyone on here who is interested in helping to make an IM app that can support a few different protocols?
I was thinking along the lines of MSN, ICQ/AIM, Jabber, Yahho Messenger(?), and maybe IRC.
If this does get off the ground, a better name suggestion is welcomed

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:22 pm
by Joakim Christiansen
PureMessenger sounds like a cool name

I might be interested in such a project, the first thing we need to do is to get good documentation for each protocol.
Here is some for msn:
Protocol documentation:
http://msnpiki.msnfanatic.com/index.php/Main_Page
http://www.hypothetic.org/docs/msn/index.php
http://www.venkydude.com/articles/msn.htm (also have a vb example)
Sourcecode/examples:
http://www.codeproject.com/vb/net/TcpCl ... otocol.asp
http://addons.miranda-im.org/details.ph ... le&id=1920
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:24 pm
by Pantcho!!
I dont have all the time for this kind of project,
but count me in as for little backup.

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:21 pm
by Joakim Christiansen
If we set up a Wiki page for this project then everyone can contribute.
What sort of project do you want, open source or private?
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 5:24 am
by lexvictory
i think open source...
i was also thinking of using threads in dlls for the protocol connections, how does that sound? (they would manage their own chat windows)
I think thread are needed because of having more than 1 protocol connected at the same time
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:54 am
by Killswitch
Wouldn't it better to start off with one protocol (say MSN, it is the most popular afterall) and then expand from there?
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:56 am
by lexvictory
that was my original idea, although i didnt mention it....
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:24 am
by Num3
Would be nice, but MSN protocol is KAOS !!!
I've tried it up once, but i quitted once i realized how many protocol codes there are...
I miss old MSN protocols.... LOL
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:29 am
by lexvictory
Num3 wrote:Would be nice, but MSN protocol is KAOS !!!
I've tried it up once, but i quitted once i realized how many protocol codes there are...
I miss old MSN protocols.... LOL
would u like to help with a different protocol? (or ure not interested in helping at all?

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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:52 am
by Num3
Sure
But it isn't easy!!! (Take a look at
MIRANDA IM )
Protocols are getting way too complex nowdays...
New MSN protocol, for example, auths using HTTPS !
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:55 am
by Joakim Christiansen
Num3 wrote:Protocols are getting way too complex nowdays...
Indeed, I don't understand why they want everything to be so complex and "bloated"

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:57 am
by lexvictory
Num3 wrote:
New MSN protocol, for example, auths using HTTPS !
U mean msnp13? or one of the older ones?
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:43 pm
by Kaiser
I once attempted to do my own MSN client, but got blocked in the HTTPS authentication as I didn't know how to do it in PB...
However if this project seems to start off, I guess I can give a hand if it's needed, according to my skills ^^...
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:01 pm
by lexvictory
what version of the msn protocol uses https for auth?
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:12 pm
by Hydrate
lexvictory wrote:what version of the msn protocol uses https for auth?
The MSNP8 protocol through to MSNP13. I got as far as the TWN (Tweener) auth, and couldnt do it. It just didnt really get it, or what to do.