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Windows Forms
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:51 pm
by SoulReaper
Does Pure Basic support windows forms for Vista?
maybe it already does could someone give me some more information on this subject...
Regards
Kevin

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:20 am
by Tranquil
What is a windows form in vista? Something like a skin?
I read some postings somewhere in the forum where some ppl tried some PB appz successfully on vista.
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:52 am
by USCode
I believe he's asking if PB supports windows.forms or it's successor WinFX and the answer, at this time, is no. PB gadgets are all Win32 based - comctrl32.dll.
http://www.ondotnet.com/pub/a/dotnet/20 ... maxdepth=0
HTH
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:21 am
by Tranquil
Oh dear! Thanks for the info.
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:10 am
by SoulReaper
Well a friend ask me to find out for him

hey i did not know what it waz
I guess the next thing i should say is will Pure Basic Support it in the Future...
Regards
Kevin

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:48 am
by srod
For anyone writing Windows applications today, the message is clear: managed code is the way of the future.

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:58 am
by thefool
oh my god....
well there will always be some people who thinks what m$ do is the best. And of course i think purebasic will support windows forms when it get that far.. At least i hope it.
But of course pb apps will still work on vista!
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:09 pm
by srod
That article is a depressing read for a Win 32 junkie like myself. Must admit I love Win 32. As much as I think MS sucks in many ways, their API is certainly very well engineered.
And all this managed bloat...

It would take a year to figure out how to open a damn window whilst wading through the thousands of classes and methods and objects.
Uhm, then again that's a bit like Win 32 in a way!
Oh well, just proves you can't win where MS is concerned!
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:23 pm
by GedB
In [Vista], Win32 will no longer be the principal API. It will, of course, continue to be supported;
Use win32 and your application will run in Win9x ME, NT, 200x, XP and Vista.
Use windows forms and you application will run in Vista and 200x + XP if the huge .Net runtime is installed.
Is Windows Forms undoubtably the future? Perhaps. However, it will take at least a decade before Win32 is displaced as the dominant platform.
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:44 pm
by Tranquil
I'm the only one who hates .Net?
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:03 pm
by Num3
Tranquil wrote:I'm the only one who hates .Net?
Naaaaaaaaaaaa
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:05 pm
by Polo
So it means even simple things like the Notepad will be slow and buggy in the future ?
Impressive.
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:24 pm
by techjunkie
GedB wrote:
Use win32 and your application will run in Win9x ME, NT, 200x, XP and Vista.
Use windows forms and you application will run in Vista and 200x + XP if the huge .Net runtime is installed.
.NET Framework is supported on more OS than Vista, 200x and XP.
M$ wrote:Supported Operating Systems: Windows 2000; Windows 98; Windows ME; Windows NT; Windows XP ;Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 requires SP6
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:30 pm
by techjunkie
Tranquil wrote:I'm the only one who hates .Net?
No, I think it is a bloated and stupid way to go. Smart in some ways, but the cons are more then the pros.
We begin to have problems allready with .NET apps at work, because developers support different versions of .NET in their applications.
http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... hlight=net
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:16 pm
by Edwin Knoppert
>because developers support different versions of .NET in their applications.
Wauwie.. you gave the correct answer.. "going for the freezer?"
Iow, you blame .NET for doing this (if that is possible what you claimed, don't know).
We use VB3 which is 16bit using 32bit generic thunking, is that similar bad?