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XP Hates me...

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:11 pm
by Dreglor
Originially this problems was just a small annoying issue that was a simple fix
has now turned into a marathon...
the issue was that all of the cd roms drivers were corrupted and could not be loaded so i couldn't use any cd so i when opon my self of repairing windows (using the windows cd) and it when thru the installation process until after the text part of the install. it asked for a specific file which was there but zero bytes in size. i look up the file and the microsoft surrport site that this was becasue i was using a non-orignal copy which I was at the time.
it had a fix for this by going into the registry during install and deleteing 2 things.
did that rebooted and resumed the install.
all was well until it rebotted after intalling and it gave a bsod just after a brief glimps of the windows loading logo. the error code was 0x0000007b which i looked up on another computer said that it was "inaccessable boot device" i tried safe mode that didn't work either...
looking further lead me to the fact that my SATA harddrive (WD1200JD) was causing the problem and the controller on the motherboard wasn't included with the install version i had (prior to sp2 and sp1) didn't have the drivers for my mother board (intel D865GLC).
i when look on the intel site they had that driver locked (mircosoft agreement or somthign rather...) and i wasn't going to spend my time with customer surport to gain access so I looked up a way to create a window disk with sp2 on it.
found one with it and seamed to work just fine until the end of the install were after reboot the place were the bsod would of been it now just reboots every time ive tried safe mode same thing.

what werid is that when i bought the drive i ghosted the old ide driver to it and it worked just fine and it had sp2 already installed

and this is were i am unable to boot and it frustrating me after 1 and of 1/2 of screwing with my machine trying to fix the problem

if you guys have any suggestions im all ears becasue this has me on ends
i don't thinl i can handle the weekend without a computer *twitch twitch*

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:24 pm
by Trond
Possible causes to your problem:
A. If the CD drive was newly inserted, make sure you didn't accidentally pull out other cables when inside the case. Also make sure that the master/slave jumper on the CD drive is correctly set.
B. Hard drive is broken, throw it in the trash can.
C. File system corrupted, reformat.

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:34 pm
by blueznl
some very weird things can happen when using sata drives... or even pata's... or even outright simple master boot records...

http://www.xs4all.nl/~bluez/datatalk/su ... f_all_mbrs

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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:34 am
by Dreglor
it couldn't be the mbr becasue it was working until i did that repair, and i can access the drive by booting the old drive i havn't used in a few months sense i got the drive
this drive is only 4-6 months old it can't be dieing on my now...

that and wouldn't all of this reinstalling of windows fix the mbr

i really don't want to remformat set every thing back up because
it may do the same exeact thing and then im just left with a empty harddrive that xp REFUSES to work with...

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:22 am
by rsts
If you have (or can create) another partition, you could try a "fresh" install of xp there. this will at least provide a benchmark as to whether the drive is at fault or if something has happened to your current install.

cheers

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:29 am
by dagcrack
If you want to know if its the drive, boot up DSL or Knoppix and check out there. Be clever, dont waste time. If it just boots up fine, then should be no problem. If you cant boot DSL, might be a problem. Got 2 drives? boot from the "sane" one and use DSL or Knoppix to check the other drive.

After that, take a conclusion.

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:38 am
by Dreglor
i do have 2 drives windows did access the drive from the older window install that the drive was ghosted from and i can read and write the drive and install windows it getting it to run that the problem... i really think its the problem with the drivers on for the sata controller prior to sp2 the drivers were not available for this motherboard
i can't get the drivers for the mother board soley because microsoft has it locked up for some reason it

the sp2 disk i trashed i accendetly put a tiny crack in the plastic side and installing is hit and miss with copying files

looks that I have to create another one or format the older harddrive save what i can and then swipe that one as well.

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:38 am
by dagcrack
What we do at work in this case is:


Take the data out (total, everything, todo) no loss, to our backup drives (we have usb drives for this, sure they are quite slow but they can handle it pretty nicely).

After we have all the user's data, we simply start working on the cleaning. In this case yes, we would do a low level format to the harddrive and also check if it has any damage (data loss for example) we have our own programs for doing this checks and some others we have bought to check their physical integrity and state.

We would also examinate in this case if the correct SATA drivers are supplied, with some mobos like the asus a7v600x (I own one as well) you must install the sata drivers by "hand" (using a 3 1/2 floppy).

We would also reflash the bios with the latest known stable revision of it respective bios.

Test the RAM dimms SEPARETLY (even though there is NO real way of testing this by SOFTWARE, the results after running said tests for 24 hours per dimm are good enough in most cases).

We would also test the processor and see if its correctly working or theres any damage to it even if this test is not necesary in 90% of the cases, we still do it.

If the cd / dvd drives are giving trouble and the customer stated so, we would dissasemble them and find out the trouble. The 80% of the cases is just dirty lens (a mix of 60% isopropilic alcohol and 40% distilled water would help you clean it, also a CO2 cleaner is important).


After all the hardware has been tested / fixed / replaced we start with the software. First of all installing the OS from the cd our customer gave us (in case its about windows, else we have our "tiny" collection of almost every linux distro existant as well, to provide during installation).


Well, once the OS has been installed, we check if the installation was correct, we analyze that all devices are recognized (if the customer brought the devices, thats) we install gfx card drivers (our recommended versions of course, never the latest with out checking them out by ourselves first) and start testing the OS with multiple applications we have for this subject.

If everything is stable and running smooth...

We later on install antivirus, anti spyware, firewall, etc (if the customer wants an exact copy of his system, we can do it anyway) but we advice to use certain software for certain thing (they usually listen to us and agree after we tell them the facts).

After that, perform final tweaks and ship back the system to the owner.
Of course we charge some $$$ for this, however no one can match us in what we do, everyone else saying they can give same services as we do in here, they lie because they cant do half of them and they always charge more than they should of! even swindle their customers!!.. anyway thats another story...


Hope that somehow helps? :?

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:26 pm
by Dreglor
Well i fixed my problem thanks guys
i just backed up what i could and did a full reinstall

now windows wants be to reregister because of hardware change, and it won't execpt the key i have *sigh*

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 8:38 pm
by dagcrack
lol.... If You want to update though you can use the trick that I mentioned about on an "old" post.. where you'll find a javascript to jump the validity check.