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Retrocoder Limited has NOT threatened to sue Sunbelt - we are currently looking at what legal options we have to defend our product.

This is a copy of the text sent to Sunbelt:

"If you read the copyright agreement when you downloaded or ran our
program you will see that Anti-spyware publishers/software houses
are NOT allowed to download, run or examine the software in any
way. By doing so you are breaking EU copyright law, this is a criminal
offence. Please remove our program from your detection list or we will
be forced to take action against you."

The action will be that we may be (in our opinion) forced to get the UK police authorities involved with Sunbelt over copyright theft. This is a criminal offence, not a civil one I believe.

Retrocoder Limited as the copyright holder, has the right to say who may or may not have its program. If someone has its program without permission, are they not guilty of a criminal offence?

For example, if you have a copy of Windows without MicroSofts permission, is this not a crime?

Below is a copy of the text sent to Joris Evers (who wrote the original article from it):

"As you can see, at the moment it is just a warning to them to stop
blacklisting the program. Our program is not a "trojan" or "virus",
it is used to keep a remote "eye" on your kids or employees. The user
must have access to the users machine in order to install the client.
Only the installer of the program can view the client machine. Our
program does not attempt to bypass firewalls or other such protection.

This is very different from "trojans" and "viruses" - they replicate
themselves and spread uncontrollably, you do not usually need direct
access to the users machine. They often try to bypass firewalls in
order to "reach" the internet.

Our problem is that companies like Sunbelt do not properly look at
software before they blacklist it. They clearly ignored legally
enforceable warnings that what they would be doing is not allowed by
the copyright holder. This shows that either they do not examine
programs properly or that they ignore copyright law. In order to add
our product to their trojan/virus list they must have downloaded it
and then examined it. Both of these actions are forbidden by the
copyright notice.

A similar situation arose with Grisoft with the AVG product. We sent
a similar warning letter out to them and they responded by removing
our programs from their blacklist. This resolved the situation and no
further action has been taken.

I will be consulting with our solicitor in the next few weeks about
companies like Sunbelt, what civil/criminal laws have been broken, and
how best to involve the UK Police authorities in action against them."

Heh. I cant believe spyMon even sells any licenses considering there are a million and one free versions of this software that work even better.

Funny how many legal threats get thrown around these days by people who probably dont even have the money to back them up.

The action will be that we may be (in our opinion) forced to get the UK police authorities involved with Sunbelt over copyright theft. This is a criminal offence, not a civil one I believe

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