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Who here uses a Natural (Ergonomic

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:04 am
by dracflamloc
What do you think is your favorite one?

I have the original natural from MS with the normal arrow keys and insert/delete/etc keys. The thing is built to last, thats for sure.

I recently spent 55 bucks on the new natural keyboard 4000 from MS and its quite nice.

It has no PS2 support but thats no big deal these days, only USB. Solidly built, yet much thinner than my previous kb.

Its interesting because the keys are totally quiet. Compared to the usual clack clack I'm not sure if this is a good thing or not. It'll take some getting used to but i'm sure my gf will love me for it for not clacking away programming while she's trying to sleep.

It feels great and is even more comfortable. The standard arrow and insert/del/etc keys are great. Also above the numpad are parenthesis, =, and a small backspace key.

Pretty darn useful if you do alot of number crunching on your numpad.

There are 5 programmable keys which using the ms software or most linux distros can be made to start programs, do different keypresses, etc. I didn't mean for this to be a review, but I really love this kb.

Microsoft keyboards have always been my favorite, and I guess it will stay that way. I bought it with company money so I could ditch the crappy dell kb my work computer came with but now I'm thinking I'll need to bring it along with my commute back and forth or buy another one.

Only downside is they are a brand new design and they are still $52 at Newegg, $55 at Best Buy., $65 at Circuit City (So bring a BB print-out).

Just curious as to what natural keyboards you guys use, if any?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16823109148

(Btw the built in faux-leather wrist-rest is very comfy)

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:58 pm
by dell_jockey
can keyboards ever be 'natural'?

What's taking speech recognition so long to really, really mature? That would be natural to me...

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:21 pm
by dracflamloc
Speech recognition is pretty good. The problem is that unless you are alone in your work environment it can be pretty distracting to have the 20 people in your cube-ville talking all at once into thier computer. Also a good typist is typically typing much faster than they can talk.

You should check out the latest version of Dragon NaturallySpeaking.

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:08 pm
by dagcrack
Haha, almost always when you buy a good brand keyboard they are very silent! however after you programm a night or two (or a week, depends) they start making some noise..

But indeed the original one did those clack clacks from the beginning (at least to me).

I have same exact one you've bought, a Genius Comfy KB-21e Scroll (with 21 damned one-touch keys that you'll never use..." and a couple generics as well.

However I prefer logitech's keyboards, they are pretty good, ever tried them?, My brother has one, feels like a notebook keyboard (which is good in my opinion).

The problem I always had with MS keyboards is that they are over-sized.. way too big, in some cases way too heavy as well (older ones).. I really tend to like logitech and genius more than MS (nothing against MS though).

Of course you wont be moving them around all day, but I remember storing the old natural keyboard and jeez it was so heavy... The version with usb hub (newer) burnt up, believe it or not it only lasted about one year and a half.. Since then I only got the 4000 because I found it quite comfy but nothing else, I usualy programm in the genius one.. which is quite silent as well (although with the time it gets more noisy as with all the keyboards, exept some logitech ones, the "notebook like", those are very well built, good materials, good design, good price after all).

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:49 pm
by dracflamloc
Yea it will become louder obviously. But usually its because you let it get dirty or spill something. =)

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:10 pm
by Comtois

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:31 pm
by dagcrack
Thats kind of lame, it wont happen till about 4 years.
I just don't see it happening right now.. you can have an idea and modell it in 3D, but from that to having a working mass-production product, well.. I must tell you they are far away from there.

I sure can show you some of my inventions as well.. put "patent pending" and ho ho, however if I cant prove you that they work, or show you a physical version.. then its not really worth showing you a render of the "thingie".

:!: Hey who spills on his keyboard? should die... (I once spill a little of orange juice on a generic keyboard, it died instantly :twisted: :twisted: ).. Also punched a keyboard to death, almost every key poped up.