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Shell
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:47 pm
by Polo
Hi !
I was just wondering, would it be possible to do a complete Windows shell replacement in Purebasic ?
I mean, to be able to just delete the windows' explorer.exe, and create our own, so the startmenu, the desktop and all would be managed in our PB's exe ??
I would be quite cool to do that

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:48 pm
by Trond
Yes. (But I wouldn't recommend trying)
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:58 pm
by netmaestro
Is the wheel not quite round enough for you? It should be reinvented?
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:28 am
by Fred
funny enough, i had started such a project

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:58 am
by Rescator
Hmm! I'm sure there is a lot o bloat in Microsoft's Shell, so a custom one might end up using less memory and cpu etc.
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:32 pm
by Polo
Fred wrote:funny enough, i had started such a project

What was the result ? Can we see what you've done ? I'm quite interested in that

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:33 pm
by Polo
Rescator wrote:Hmm! I'm sure there is a lot o bloat in Microsoft's Shell, so a custom one might end up using less memory and cpu etc.
Well, you also forgot that the Microsoft's shell was buggy

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:34 pm
by Polo
netmaestro wrote:Is the wheel not quite round enough for you? It should be reinvented?
With that kind of mind, Linux is useless, Purebasic is useless, etc...
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:45 pm
by thefool
Polo wrote:netmaestro wrote:Is the wheel not quite round enough for you? It should be reinvented?
With that kind of mind, Linux is useless, Purebasic is useless, etc...
Yes
Actually my opinion is: If you could do a BETTER wheel, why not reinvent it?
If you make a light shell, wich used very little memory and didnt take much cpu power i would use it when creating music for example.
Btw is there already such VERY light but anyway beautiful shell?
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:49 pm
by Polo
Well, I'm sure there is already very good shells, but doing a shell in Purebasic would be exciting, wouldn't it
And the fact it would be written in Pure would do that the shell would be unbloated (how could a Pure program could be bloated

), stable and fast

!
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:54 pm
by PB
> is there already such VERY light but anyway beautiful shell?
I don't know about "light" but Talisman Desktop (not free) looks very nice:
http://www.lighttek.com/talisman.htm
http://www.lighttek.com/images/t2.jpg

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:00 pm
by thefool
Polo wrote:Well, I'm sure there is already very good shells, but doing a shell in Purebasic would be exciting, wouldn't it
And the fact it would be written in Pure would do that the shell would be unbloated (how could a Pure program could be bloated

), stable and fast

!
True its a brilliant idea
@PB:
I agree those screenshots looks nice! But it definently doesnt look light
free shells @ nonags.com :
http://ftp.sunet.se/nonags/deskshell.html
geoshell looks real nice!
http://www.geoshell.com/ (free)
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:05 pm
by Polo
PB : your screenshot does look nice, but this is what I call bloated

There's some really nice idea, I like the bar at the top, with Log Off / Turn Off (why should be push "Start" in the aim of shutting down the computer

?)
But actually on this screenshot I don't like the right panel which look useless and takes all the place, and I prefer having a "real" desktop
Anyway, I would be really amazed to see what Fred has done on this

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:14 pm
by thefool
Polo wrote:PB : your screenshot does look nice, but this is what I call bloated

There's some really nice idea, I like the bar at the top, with Log Off / Turn Off (why should be push "Start" in the aim of shutting down the computer

?)
But actually on this screenshot I don't like the right panel which look useless and takes all the place, and I prefer having a "real" desktop
Anyway, I would be really amazed to see what Fred has done on this

True

I guess i want a kind of shell, that JUST have a right click menu and a systray hehe.. For file managing totalcommander is okay and that is a seperate program!
SO fred tell what you have done so far

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:19 pm
by Dare2
Come on now Fred, please don't be slow!
Out with your shell - we wanna know!
Up with link, download (to applause)
We'll show respect if you show us yours!