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Hi all, I bought a new nVidia GeForce 2600+ video card yesterday but
Windows won't let me use it... I checked Device Manager and it gives
Code 12 errors about a lack of resources. It's an AGP card and a direct
drop-in replacement for my current GeForce 2 AGP card. I assumed it
would just work. I can only get up to 800x600 resolution in 8-bit colour.
I'm using DirectX 9.0c and the latest nVidia drivers (v77.77). What can
I do? Most Usenet posts with matches for "code 12" report that my
motherboard may be incompatible with it... it is an old board, Gigabyte
brand, not sure of model right now (I'm at work). I did a clean install
of Windows 2000 to see if that fixed it, but nope. I will try a clean install
of Windows XP again tonight to see if that can allocate resources more
efficiently, but if not, what else can I try? I cannot remove any of my
other cards as they're ALL needed. I even tried swapping different cards
around into different PCI slots but it made no difference. Any tips?

nVidia tech support?

sounds like a hardware issue with your motherboard

try and flash the motherboard bios
if that doesn't work i think you need a new motherboard

some graphic cards dont like to work with some boards! (i think this may be the problem!) on the other side there are some small differents in AGP... voltage and factor... (maybe your new gfx card require and AGP specification, your board dont like!?)

btw, have to tried a BIOS update and reset all the bios setting to default... but i really think that there is any incompatible issues between your older board and your new gfxcard. hope you can solve the problem without spending money in buying a new board. good luck

Edit:
I dont know nor every heared something about a GeForce 2600 !!! Are you sure, that it isnt any other modell?

> I dont know nor every heared something about a GeForce 2600

I made a typo: it's a GeForce 6200, not 2600, LOL.

Anyway, to answer some of your comments:

> nVidia tech support?

From Australia? I'll give it a try last, but they don't have local support.

> try and flash the motherboard bios

Wouldn't know how, and it sounds dangerous...

> [try a] BIOS update and reset all the bios setting to default

I've reset the BIOS settings to default but I might try removing the CMOS
battery and replacing it, just to make triply sure that all defaults are being
used.

The closest match I've seen on Usenet is this post:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/mic ... 874d5b8601

It talks about updating chipset drivers and also that the card may need a
better power supply (as va!n mentioned). So, I'll try a combo of all the
above, along with a fresh XP install, and see how it goes. I don't fancy
buying a new motherboard, my wife wouldn't let me either!

A little insight into your problem...

The 6200 was designed to take on ATI in its X300 series as the PCI Express budget card. nVidia has never released the 6200 as an AGP card. However, Gigabyte added the HSI bridge to a card and produced an AGP compatible 6200. However, since it is not a "true, official Nvidia" AGP, you will have "issues" with it when using the wrong drivers.

Use the latest drivers from Gigabyte themselves http://www.giga-byte.com The exact drivers you should need for the HSI bridge compatibility are at http://www.giga-byte.com/VGA/Support/Dr ... 00+HSI.htm , since Nvidia's "official" drivers will not support a nonexistent AGP card as NVidia only released that card as a PCI Express.

With Nvidia it is rarely good to use the "latest" drivers anyway. When you find some that work, don't upgrade.

Just make sure to FULLY UNINSTALL your old drivers

AFAIK NVidia's plan for the AGP bus in the budget range is to leave it to the GeForce FX range of cards, since AGP is set to die off very soon.

Hope this helps.

> Use the latest drivers from Gigabyte themselves

Ohhhhhh, thanks for the link -- sounds like it'll work!

(BTW, I hate getting tips like this at work because it's HOURS before I can
get home to test it... then I start thinking too much about it and my work
suffers... hehe... I feel like telling the boss that I'm sick and going home).

Do me a favor and let me know how it works either way

I made a typo: it's a GeForce 6200, not 2600, LOL.

Dang it! I was going to ask you if it was a GeForce Atari 2600!

@Brice: Those drivers don't work. They come up with an error message
stating that no suitable drivers could be found (or something, I should have
written it down) and then the setup aborted.

I've decided to give up, and will try to get a refund on the board I guess.
The only other option is a new motherboard, but again, if I can't install a
friggin' video card then it's going to be a nightmare replacing an entire
motherboard. I've put in my old GeForce 2 again and it worked right
away... same AGP slot and everything. Shame the new one won't work.

Thanks to all who replied... but unless I take it to a service place or
something then I don't think I'll get it working.

@Brice again: Why did you recommend that I try the "6200+HSI" drivers
on Gigabytes site, instead of the plain "6200" drivers available? Should
I try that as well? I'm referring to the ones here:

http://www.giga-byte.com/VGA/Support/Dr ... ce6200.htm

BTW, I don't know why the 6200 won't work, the box states: For use in AGP
slot or PCI slot although I don't see how it would fit into a PCI slot...

throw it out and by an ATI

@Brice again: Why did you recommend that I try the "6200+HSI" drivers on Gigabytes site, instead of the plain "6200" drivers available?

Because nvidia has never released the 6200 as an AGP card. Gigabyte added the HSI bridge to a card and produced an AGP compatible 6200.

The non "HSI" drivers on the Gigabyte site would be for a PCI Express version of the 6200.

Should I try that as well?

You can, it certainly won't hurt anything. However I would also try updating to the latest drivers for your motherboard itself and trying the HSI drivers again.

If the HSI drivers will not work, it is definitely a motherboard incompatibility issue.

BTW, I don't know why the 6200 won't work, the box states: For use in AGP slot or PCI slot

Unfortunately, because it is using the HSI bridge it could be incompatible with some motherboards.

> I would also try updating to the latest drivers for your motherboard
> itself and trying the HSI drivers again

I checked Gigabyte's site and yes, I've already installed the latest drivers
for my motherboard (it's a GA-6VXE7+, and I'm running the FA driver,
which is the latest).

> If the HSI drivers will not work, it is definitely a motherboard
> incompatibility issue

I may have to talk the wife into letting me get a new motherboard...
although I have no idea how to install one... is it really just as simple as
unscrewing the old one and sticking in the new, and replacing all the
cables (IDE, etc) ?

its not hard at all just remembering where to put the cables to the leds & power button and reset button sometimes get a little fucked up

however i have done it many times and its really not that hard.