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Realbasic v5.5 SE for free
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:16 pm
by V2
Hi,
grab your free copy of Realbasic v5.5 Standard Edition here:
http://www.realsoftware.com/Realbasic/vb6/
You have to state a valid email address.
(Actually this offer is for VB users - but there's no proof required.)
Have fun and remember PB is the best Basic around...

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:37 pm
by Kale
You can't look a gift horse in the mouth, ...downloaded!

I dunno if i'll use it but better to have and not need than to need and not have.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:28 pm
by dracflamloc
Interesting. I won't pass it up but I can't find a linux download despite the site saying it supports linux.
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:48 pm
by LarsG
dracflamloc wrote:Interesting. I won't pass it up but I can't find a linux download despite the site saying it supports linux.
Probably because the offer is supposed to be valid for Visual Basic user..
(and as far as I know there's no VB for Linux?!?)
btw: I just DL'ed it..

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:37 am
by zikitrake

Wow!
...and here
http://www.realsoftware.com/download/windows/ you can get docs, examples and other utilities..
BUT...! PUREBASIC FOREVER!

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:39 am
by Dreglor
ugh, its a vb clone

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:34 am
by dracflamloc
Heh:
RealBasic: Simple EXE size for just a blank window - 1.7MB
PureBasic: Simple EXE size for just a blank window - 0.01MB
Size difference: RealBasic is 170 times larger than PureBasic EXE
Winner: PureBasic by a landslide
PS - The actual IDE doesn't support linux, but you can compile your program in windows to a linux executable. (Wonder if the IDE runs using wine?)
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:11 am
by Shannara
Don't forget the VB program size of over 5MB for an empty program ... have to include the runtime libraries to befare ... or .NET for over 30 MB for a blank program, hehe ...
Seriously, size doesnt matter .. or thats what some women say .. hrmm, sure ...
Anyway, The only thing I see RB have over PB is crossplatform capability (including the ability to crossplatform compile on the same OS!), and it's all-in-one IDE. It is slower then PB, and create fricken huge EXEs)
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:31 am
by dracflamloc
um, VB6 programs compile to about 30kb if they are blank, of course then you have to add the runtime dll which is about 2.6MB.
But I'm not comparing Vb... just Pb and Rb
However, I think the RealBasic IDE is just awful. Theres no way to just view all the source code. I'd go crazy making a program in that.
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:47 am
by Shannara
(thanks for the correction concerning vb,, what but sp are you using with vb6?)
Anyways, I agree. The IDE need some major reworking from the ground up. It's almost as bad as QuickBasic ... erk!
For easier of use, PB wins hands down
Also, The peeps @ RealBasic are not bright enough to not include lame runtime in the app itself.. hrm ...
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/8438
@ last comment,
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:28 am
by Tension
First, thanks for the link.
Second, thank heavens I bought PB and not RB - and I nearly went the other way.
This has cemented my belief in PB and in the people on this board. I have run tons of examples now, from the RB server and from some RB user sites. Lots of bloat, and things like screen flicker, etc, are quite bad on my system. PB and PB coders are good.
Having said that, I am still glad to have it. I agree with Kale. Better to have and not want.

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:50 pm
by Psychophanta
Sincerely, after the PB existence, RB and VB are an almost absolute shame at least on matter of final executeables sizes and speed, and package size, installation ... (I think this last one is the reason used by those who cash to "justify" prices, hahah

)
Well, nice RB has a free version.
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:10 am
by GedB
Don't forget to look how restrictive all the licensing is.
Freely distributable for anything (except wrapping the library). Install on your computers. PureBasic brings freedom from more than just bloat.
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:24 pm
by Karbon
Best tool for the job, guys. Don't waste any time being a zealot for this language or that. Just use what works best for the task in front of you. No single language or platform is "the best".
RB is pretty nice, I've seen some rather large applications written using it (mostly for Mac).
Remember that the free version is only for legal VB owners, though I see they made no attempt to verify the downloaders own VB.
Good marketing for RB, IMHO.
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:29 pm
by dracflamloc
hmmm, it would seem that this tool isn't good for much of anything but 10 yr olds trying to learn, and even then I think that learning without a GUI designer is the best way...