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intels new chip :o

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:39 pm
by Dreglor
pentium 4 6xx!!
* Pentium 4 6XX Sequence Processor
* Clock speeds:
P4 660 - 3.6GHz
P4 650 - 3.4GHz
P4 640 - 3.2GHz
P4 630 - 3GHz
* 800MHz "Quad-Pumped" frontside bus
* 0.09-micron manufacturing process
* Hyper-Threading Technology
* 2MB on-chip, full-speed L2 cache
* Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Power Savings technology "EIST"
* Intel EM64T Extensions - 64-bit computing
* Execute Disable Bit - For enhanced security
* 16KB L1 Data Cache
* Streaming SIMD Extensions - SSE2, SSE3
* 31-stage "Hyper Pipelined" Technology for higher clock speeds
* Rapid Execution Engine - ALU clocked at 2X frequency of core
* 128-bit Floating Point/Multimedia unit
* Intel "NetBurst" micro-architecture
* Supported by the Intel i925XE and i915 chipsets, with Hyper-Threading
* Intel MMX media enhancement technology
* Memory cacheability up to 256 terabytes of addressable memory in 64-bit mode and 4GB in 32-bit mode
* 1.25 - 1.4V operating voltage range
* LGA775 Packaging - Land Grid Array
* 84 - 115 watts TPD (Thermal Design Power)
64bit processing is a good thing for intel although internally the processer could of done that long ago and those Hyper-threading cpu's was 64 computing right there becasue it 2 32bit commands being executed at the same time
and internally they work with 512bit :O

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:44 am
by blueznl
i'm on amd's side at the moment, have always been an intel man until the xp2500 came out, dunno what to expect from intel next...

all i want is cheap multicore :-) oh, an a blonde and a cool beer ;-)

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:34 am
by Psychophanta
I am an amd man now.

Compared pentium4 3000 to athlon 3000, and athon kicks to pentium ass :P

However; i've read
0.09-micron manufacturing process
What that means? does "manufacturing process" means that new pentium is builded at that scale of integration?
It this is true, it is TEMPTING, VERY TEMPTING :shock:
I believed 0.13 micron was near of possible silicon based integration :o

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:54 am
by Psychophanta
Aha! Looks like 0.09 micron is the current record got with silicon :!:
I guess amd has already something ready with this tech :)

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:33 am
by LarsG

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:29 pm
by fsw
* 31-stage "Hyper Pipelined" Technology for higher clock speeds
In other words the more stages you have the slower is execution per hz.
* 84 - 115 watts TPD (Thermal Design Power)
The best Intel chip would be the Pentium M (based on PIII) with 64bit enhancements. Pentium M is as fast as the Pentium 4, but with 1Ghz less speed and way less power.
* 0.09-micron manufacturing process
Here you can see that AMD is producing the Athlon64 also in a 90nm process (green box):
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Pro ... 08,00.html

Finally:
Here you can download a 360 day trial of Windows 64bit:
http://www.amd.com/winxp4

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:54 pm
by Psychophanta
fsw wrote: Here you can see that AMD is producing the Athlon64 also in a 90nm process (green box):
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Pro ... 08,00.html
Oh! thanks. I didn't know it. :shock:
And..., how to know if a Athlon64 is 130nm or 90nm made? Do you know?

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:58 pm
by fsw
Psychophanta wrote: And..., how to know if a Athlon64 is 130nm or 90nm made? Do you know?
No, sorry.

But you get more info here:
http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?op=m ... es&secid=6
http://www.dealtime.com/xPF-ATHLON_64_3 ... A3500BIBOX
http://www.dealtime.com/xPF-ATHLON_64_3 ... ET_939_1_4
and as you can see here:
http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?op=m ... =63&page=1
there is also a 3000+ version in 90nm.

And here is more info to 90nm:
http://www.amdboard.com/90nm.html

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:06 pm
by Psychophanta
Ahahaha!
I own a jewel of 90nm AMD Athlon64 3000+ Desktop in my notebook and i realize of it just now :shock: :!: :shock:

ThanX fsw. :)

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:08 pm
by blueznl
i wonder if that cell concept would be fast enough to be used on video cards, just a cluster of cell's and go for it... 3? 6? 9 or so? on a simple board with a little memory...

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:12 pm
by thefool
any idea what i should do?
current system:
MSI motherboard, 756 mb ddr 2700 ram, athlonXP 2000+ & 256mb drr radeon 9600XT card..

should i:

1) buy a dual 64bit 3200+/3400+/3600+
2) wait for dualcore to come out?

how long till dualcore comes out? Will it be cheaper than
dual of the others?

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:58 pm
by blueznl
i would wait, perhaps buy a cheap athlon xp2500 somewhere, but that's about it, even better just wait and save that little money :-)

i think 6 months to a year, then the dual cores will be upon us, i just upgraded because my previous system was slowing me down, mostly on disk speed (mainboard itself was a little slow, the rest was adequate)

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:23 pm
by thefool
ok ill wait.. thx :D

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:52 pm
by Psychophanta
Interesting page: http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/info.htm

I didn't know about Pentium M 90nm :!:

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:30 pm
by Num3
Seems IIBM/Sony/Toshiba are going to release a new processassor with 8 independent cores running in cells.

CPU speed starts at 4Ghz and goes up!
It can do 100 gigabyte/s memory transfer rates, with the new rambus memory.

Cell Chip is 10 times faster than the lastest PC processors, and will be the hart of Playstation 3 in 2006.

ETA for PC's in 2006/7.

More info here:
HERE
At IBM[/url]