[Implemented] Support for 64 bit processors

Codemonger · Post by **Codemonger** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:11 pm

I know this is premature, but it would be nice to know if in future, if PureBasic will fully support 64 Bit processors. I know FASM will have to support it first, but when it does, will PureBasic follow ?

I ask this because it seems 64Bit OS and 64 Bit processors are going to be newest coolest thing by the end of this year I think.

Psychophanta · Post by **Psychophanta** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:08 pm

Mmm... some hope!
But as long as i know, still there are no completed language compilers for it.

fsw · Post by **fsw** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:40 am

Ville (he started MenuetOS) started to code a OS in asm for x86-64 processors.
http://expert-zone.com/index.php?module ... 21b21c1ac6

I suppose he started from the 32-bit Menuet-OS codebase.

GPI · Post by **GPI** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:53 am

I think, that in the moment much more important things exist.

And one important thing: A 64Bit-EXE need a 64Bit-CPU. The numbers of existing 64Bit-CPUs are very low (but increasing). At the moment PB-EXE works on a 486...

Randy Walker · Post by **Randy Walker** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:55 am

My guru friends (I'm no guru) laugh at me because I'm just now moving into the 32 bit world by moving to PureBasic. They tell me 64 bit is just around the corner, but when I look at an already heavily saturated 32 bit market and Celerons hitting the current market at an unpresidented rate, I really have to discount the significance of any 64 bit OS becoming popular a-n-y time soon, outside of intense industrial/server applications anyway.

Psychophanta · Post by **Psychophanta** » Thu May 19, 2005 8:11 am

Does someone know a decent C or C++ compiler for 64-bit Windows or linux ?

DoubleDutch · Post by **DoubleDutch** » Thu May 19, 2005 8:59 am

imho, I would forget about the 64-bit x86 based machines!

The most important change in computers this next few years will be the move to powerpc based machines. The sheer speed of the xbox2/ps3/revolution will force the PC to completely change direction in terms of the system processor.

All of the new consoles use multiple 3.2ghz or higher powerpc cpus. The xbox2 will run 6 threads in parallel. The powerpc based cell technology in the ps3 is amazing - mainframe power on your desktop - it has 3.2ghz rated main ram!!! The revolution will run 8 threads in parallel!

Its the games industry that seems to force the direction of the PC these days and the x86 cannot keep up on price/performance. The competition has leapfrogged them by years.

I think that the move to make a powerpc based compiler was a very good one in this respect.

-Anthony

Psychophanta · Post by **Psychophanta** » Thu May 19, 2005 9:38 am

DoubleDutch wrote:I think that the move to make a powerpc based compiler was a very good one in this respect.

Mmhhh, i think so.
BTW, i have 4 questions maybe someone of you know some about this:
is in fact the nowadays PowerPC manufactured by Motorola or by IBM?
Is the PowerPC main basis tech from Motorola, Alpha, hibrid ... ???
Are the latests PowerPC CPUs R.I.S.C. ?
in parallel processing tech, who is the "champion" nowadays ??

tinman · Post by **tinman** » Thu May 19, 2005 12:24 pm

Psychophanta wrote:BTW, i have 4 questions maybe someone of you know some about this:
is in fact the nowadays PowerPC manufactured by Motorola or by IBM?
Is the PowerPC main basis tech from Motorola, Alpha, hibrid ... ???
Are the latests PowerPC CPUs R.I.S.C. ?
in parallel processing tech, who is the "champion" nowadays ??

1) Both produce PowerPC's but the lines are diverged in feature sets, IBM going down the line of multiple cores on one chip for server type applications. Motorola focussed more on embedded systems and still supply Apple for the most part, but use a lot of their PPC chips in-house.
2) Motorola and IBM produced the basic PowerPC together
3) PowerPC processors have always been RISC
4) Dunno :)

DoubleDutch · Post by **DoubleDutch** » Thu May 19, 2005 3:53 pm

4) Take a look at Sony's cell technology to see who is champ in this area (soon). Just google "cell" and "workstation"...

http://www.anandtech.com/news/shownews.aspx?i=23434

http://www.workstationplanet.com/news/a ... hp/3460321

Psychophanta · Post by **Psychophanta** » Thu May 19, 2005 10:07 pm

It looks very very goooood

It seems the beginning of the end of Intel era !

DoubleDutch · Post by **DoubleDutch** » Fri May 20, 2005 7:53 am

It would be really funny/ironic if Intel started making a PowerPC clone

-Anthony