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Posted: **Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:52 pm**

Linked to a former post viewtopic.php?t=7156&start=0&postdays=0 ... highlight=

Here is a copy of a log between Heis Spitter who alarmed and this guy again.

Session Start (Heis_spiter:h4ng4m3): Tue Jul 06 17:32:01 2004
[17:32] *** (Link: h4ng4m3)h4ng4m3 has added you to their contact list. You may choose to (Link: h4ng4m3)accept or (Link: h4ng4m3)deny this action.. You may also (Link: h4ng4m3)add this user to your contact list or (Link: h4ng4m3)ignore this user.
[17:32] h4ng4m3: hi
[17:32] *** You have been successfully added to h4ng4m3's contact list.
[17:32] h4ng4m3: lo
[17:32] *** "h4ng4m3" signed on at Tue Jul 06 17:32:19 2004.
[17:33] h4ng4m3: hey there?
[17:33] Heis_spiter: hello
[17:33] h4ng4m3: can send to me purebasic?
[17:33] h4ng4m3:
[17:33] Heis_spiter: why ?
[17:33] h4ng4m3: i see you on forum
[17:34] h4ng4m3: and think you had it
[17:34] Heis_spiter: Yes but it's not free
[17:35] h4ng4m3: oh i know
[17:36] h4ng4m3: send to me plz
[17:36] h4ng4m3:
[17:36] Heis_spiter: no
[17:36] Heis_spiter: Iv'e bought it
[17:36] Heis_spiter: and i don't send it
[17:36] h4ng4m3: hmm
[17:36] h4ng4m3: i will bought it later
[17:36] h4ng4m3: ok?
[17:37] Heis_spiter: doanload the demo
[17:37] h4ng4m3: i look you in OSS comunity
[17:37] h4ng4m3: so i think you too
[17:38] Heis_spiter: OSS ??
[17:38] h4ng4m3: (..help me plz, demo is weak)
[17:38] h4ng4m3: OSS is open source ...
[17:38] Heis_spiter: ah
[17:38] Heis_spiter: ok
[17:41] h4ng4m3: (..help me plz, demo is weak)
[17:41] Heis_spiter: sorry, if you want to use it, buy it
[17:42] h4ng4m3: i did that if i have enough buck
[17:43] h4ng4m3: i can't take job when i am under 18
[17:43] h4ng4m3:
[17:43] Heis_spiter: and your parents ?
[17:44] h4ng4m3: he is poor
[17:44] h4ng4m3: and ......
[17:44] Heis_spiter: Programming uis not the best thing to get money
[17:45] h4ng4m3: ??
[17:45] h4ng4m3: so you help me?
[17:46] Heis_spiter: no, sorry, but try to contact Fred, the develloper
[17:46] Heis_spiter: (Link: www.purebasic.com)www.purebasic.com
[17:47] h4ng4m3: plz?
[17:48] Heis_spiter: no
[17:49] h4ng4m3: why don't talk 'yes'
[17:49] h4ng4m3:
[17:51] Heis_spiter: because
[17:51] Heis_spiter: if it's not free you must to buy it .
[17:53] h4ng4m3: but i have no money
[17:53] h4ng4m3: that you have it
[17:54] h4ng4m3: so why don't try help to me once
[17:54] h4ng4m3:

Just for information

Posted: **Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:08 pm**

lol.....

Posted: **Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:13 pm**

End of log.

[17:58] Heis_spiter: I don't think, if you have not money, the best is using PC
[17:58] Heis_spiter: sorry, i've forgotten word...
[17:58] Heis_spiter: :s
[17:58] h4ng4m3: huh?
[17:59] Heis_spiter: ah...
[17:59] Heis_spiter: I've just seen something...
[18:00] h4ng4m3: what?
[18:00] Heis_spiter: De: h4ng4m3
A: newbie
PostÃ© le: Jeu AÃ´u 07, 2003 18:27
[18:00] Heis_spiter: Sujet: hello, you
first, i want you can help me .
i'm arrive a poor country, i don't have money to buy purebasic
you can send to me a copy of purebasic full (or link to download)
thanks in adv
hope soon from you
[18:01] h4ng4m3: Yeah?
[18:04] Heis_spiter: Please, now stop it !
[18:04] Heis_spiter: (Link: http://www.google.fr/search?q=h4ng4m3+& ... l=fr&meta=)http://www.google.fr/search?q=h4ng4m3+& ... l=fr&meta=
[18:06] Heis_spiter: where do you want me to send you pureBasic ?
Session Close (h4ng4m3): Tue Jul 06 18:13:08 2004

I was not able to block him, because he has putted me in Friend list, so I've removed him. The last sentence was to get an email address that it could be other than "h4ng4m3@yahoo.com".

Posted: **Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:20 pm**

Same Guy? (sure sounds like similar dialog):

some guy wrote:Session Start (237240482): Sun Jun 20 00:47:50 2004
237240482: Hi
*** "237240482" signed on at Sun Jun 20 00:48:08 2004.
Noah Phense: hey
237240482: are you guru pb?
Noah Phense: hardly
Noah Phense: who are you on pb.com
237240482: hard to programing with pb?
237240482: i am newcomer
Noah Phense: is newcomer your name on the forums ?
237240482: no no
237240482: i not register one
237240482: i read
Noah Phense: what brought you to purebasic ?
Noah Phense: i will be back in a few minutes..
237240482: there?
Noah Phense: what language you speak ?
237240482: sorry with my poor english
237240482: ;(
Noah Phense: what language
237240482: Laos
237240482: what matter?
237240482: language programming?
Noah Phense: speaking language.. what country are you from?
Noah Phense: french? german? spanish?
237240482: laos ?
237240482: near thailand
237240482:
237240482: :-X
Noah Phense: checking
237240482: what?
237240482: checking ?
Session Close (237240482): Sun Jun 20 01:12:54 2004

Session Start (237240482): Sun Jun 20 19:31:27 2004
237240482: :-*
Noah Phense: hmm
Session Close (237240482): Sun Jun 20 19:37:01 2004

Session Start (237240482): Sun Jun 20 19:45:30 2004
237240482: huuuuuuuuuu
Session Close (237240482): Sun Jun 20 19:45:54 2004

Session Start (237240482): Sun Jun 20 20:26:37 2004
237240482: h3ey
237240482: why don't talk
237240482: sdf
Session Close (237240482): Sun Jun 20 21:03:58 2004

Session Start (237240482): Mon Jul 05 21:20:37 2004
237240482: hey
Noah Phense: howdy
237240482: nice and you
Noah Phense: doing good.. what is the time there ?
237240482: it is 8:30am
Noah Phense: wow.. 9:30pm here..
237240482: wow 1/2 of the earth
237240482:
Noah Phense: yes.. were do you live
237240482: how old are you?
237240482: well, now i move to live at vietnam
Noah Phense: north or south ?
237240482: do you know hanoi or saigon in vietnam?
237240482: yeah i live in hanoi (north)
237240482: hey?
237240482: are you slow type?
237240482: typing
Noah Phense: i type pretty fast why do you ask... just helping someone with antivirus..
237240482: ah, you are helping somebody
Noah Phense: yes.. so how is the weather there this time of year ?
237240482: hothot
237240482: ..do you know programming
237240482: ?
Noah Phense: same here.. in Florida
Noah Phense: i love programming ..
237240482: myseft like a day before
237240482:
237240482: how love?
Noah Phense: very carefully..
237240482: (me like go to beach at florida for
Noah Phense: the beach is fun
237240482: have beautiful girls at that , right?
237240482:
237240482:
Noah Phense: yes.. like BayWatch...
237240482: so you have holiday for this year?
Noah Phense: we have a few holidays during the year..
Noah Phense: do you mean this month?
237240482: ah that is high style life
237240482: at my country , usually once in a year and at the summer
Noah Phense: yesterday was the 4th of July.. we celebrate that
237240482:
Noah Phense: what holiday do you have in the summer ?
237240482: yeah i like beach so i and my friends have holiday on halongbay
237240482: that is a week before
Noah Phense: what is holiday Name ?
237240482: now i must wait for next year
Noah Phense: come to U.S. lots of Holidays..
237240482: Holiday name?
Noah Phense: yes what is the name of your holiday?
237240482: give me some money, you?
237240482: hehe
Noah Phense: lol
Noah Phense: come make lots of money in U.S.
*** "237240482" signed on at Mon Jul 05 21:42:14 2004.
237240482: i did not define name of holiday, but it is a holiday in my summer
237240482: cool, how money in a hour? you have?
237240482: your boss pay for you, or you are boss
Noah Phense: 36 usd = 1 hour
Session Close (237240482): Mon Jul 05 21:45:35 2004

Session Start (abcnew): Mon Jul 05 21:45:38 2004
abcnew: what?
abcnew: really?
Noah Phense: it depends on what you do..
abcnew: yeah, what i must do?
abcnew:
abcnew: (i wish i have 60$ now to buy a software that i like)
Noah Phense: what software
abcnew: it is a language programm
abcnew: ah no
abcnew: a compiler i though
Noah Phense: which one
Session Close (abcnew): Mon Jul 05 21:50:30 2004

Session Start (abcnew): Mon Jul 05 21:54:48 2004
abcnew: which one?
abcnew: purebasic
abcnew: do you have it?
abcnew: ?
Noah Phense: yes i have purebasic ..
abcnew: wow
Noah Phense: how old are you?
abcnew: cool
abcnew: i'm 16
abcnew: why you ask?
Noah Phense: wondering how much money you have for purebasic?
abcnew: i have no money, expect i 'm 18
abcnew: why don't typing?
Noah Phense: i have a couple computers... going back and forth on them..
abcnew: wow
abcnew: why you need more one computer
abcnew: how about purebasic?
Noah Phense: different computers to do handle different things.. purebasic is my favorite!
Session Close (abcnew): Mon Jul 05 22:05:53 2004

Session Start (abcnew): Mon Jul 05 22:06:34 2004
abcnew:
abcnew: all coputer is running winos? and arch x86?
Noah Phense: i run SuSE 9.1 Professional x86 (linux), RedHat Professional Workstation 3, and Windows 2000 Professional ..
abcnew: linux i like it and running it
abcnew: what purpose ?
abcnew: (i have win2000 in linux too)
abcnew: hi can help me have purebasic?
abcnew:
Noah Phense: what do you need help with?
Session Close (abcnew): Mon Jul 05 22:18:09 2004

Session Start (abcnew): Mon Jul 05 22:18:47 2004
abcnew: have purebasic?
Noah Phense: yes
abcnew: make of 60$ or anything have purebasic
abcnew: you know?
Noah Phense: i dont understand
abcnew: yeah how can i have purebasic!
Noah Phense: get a job
abcnew: yeah expect i 18
Noah Phense: you dont have to lie to me.. you already said 16..
Noah Phense: is there anything you can do to make money ?
Noah Phense: i have to go for a few minutes.. i will be back
Session Close (abcnew): Mon Jul 05 22:26:57 2004

Session Start (abcnew): Mon Jul 05 22:41:52 2004
abcnew: sorry
abcnew: expect i 18
abcnew: help plz
abcnew:
Noah Phense: with what
abcnew: have purebasic
Noah Phense: how
abcnew: buy for me a copy
abcnew: hmm
Noah Phense: lol
abcnew: i will pay you when i am 18 (and have job)
abcnew: why lol?
Noah Phense: because its been a long time since i have had someone ask me to buy them software
abcnew: happy
abcnew: help me, you?
Noah Phense: i wish i could help you, but i cant
abcnew: why?
abcnew:
abcnew: me too
abcnew: so why don't do that easier?
abcnew: same as send to me a copy ffrom you
abcnew:
Noah Phense: no sorry.. cant do that either
abcnew: why?
Noah Phense: becuase it is illegal
abcnew: no it is legal
abcnew: i have no company
abcnew: or anthing same
abcnew: i use it for education
abcnew: ..
abcnew: by myseft
abcnew: help me plz, you?
Noah Phense: that is illegal but i give you credit for trying..
abcnew: you know i will goin to a university 2 year after
abcnew: now i want do something with myseft
abcnew: i think i need purebasic now...
abcnew: you will as a god of me , you?
Noah Phense: you should.. so you should get the money together, and buy it.. ?
abcnew: I think legal is ok
abcnew: i will buy all software from M$ or from anybody when i have money
abcnew: mmm
abcnew: now for private personal (myseft)..
abcnew: you?
Session Close (abcnew): Mon Jul 05 22:56:10 2004

- np

Posted: **Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:37 pm**

It's not finished !

Session Start (Heis_spiter:h4ng4m3): Tue Jul 06 18:21:22 2004
[18:21] h4ng4m3: any way?
[18:22] Heis_spiter: what ?
[18:22] h4ng4m3: you ask where to send?
[18:23] h4ng4m3:
[18:23] Heis_spiter: yes
[18:24] h4ng4m3: so ?
[18:27] Heis_spiter: why so ?
[18:30] h4ng4m3: well , OSS is good for me now
[18:30] h4ng4m3: thank anyway
[18:30] h4ng4m3: ...
[18:31] h4ng4m3: how about C language?
[18:32] Heis_spiter: it's good
[18:33] h4ng4m3: good?
[18:33] h4ng4m3: which one?
[18:33] Heis_spiter: C is a good langage
[18:34] h4ng4m3: ffree ?
[18:35] Heis_spiter: ye stake dev Cpp
[18:35] Heis_spiter: are you to : 237240482 ?
[18:37] h4ng4m3: what it is?
[18:37] Heis_spiter: your ICQ number ?
[18:37] h4ng4m3: i don't use icq
[18:38] Heis_spiter: ok sorry
[18:38] h4ng4m3: why?
[18:38] Heis_spiter: nerver minds
[18:40] Heis_spiter: I go away
[18:40] Heis_spiter: sorry
[18:41] h4ng4m3: ok
[18:41] *** Auto-response sent to h4ng4m3: Je suis absent pour le moment !
Veuillez ressayer plus tard !
@#
[18:41] h4ng4m3: take care!

But he has not send IP or email adress.
NoahPhense : it appears he is no 237240482.... So what can we do ? I can't have any information from him : http://profiles.yahoo.com/h4ng4m3

Posted: **Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:48 pm**

Yeah this is his ICQ number: 237240482

But there's nothing you can do about it.

I've had my ICQ number 25830366 (25,830,366) for a very long
time. You can tell by the low number..

But if I wanted, I could go create another in about 5 minutes.

Getting his IP wont help either. So, then you'll have his ISP. Can't do
anything with that.

I just find it amusing.

- np

Posted: **Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:53 pm**

Just make a small PB app like this:

Code: Select all

If openfile(1,"Purebasic_installer.exe")

for a=1 to 100000000*1024 ;(10Gb file)
writestring("1")
next

Closefile(1)
end

Next just zip it up into a self extracting archive.... Will compress very well, to about 5 or 6kb and send it to him...

Once he runs it we will have less 10Gb on the HD and an EXE that's a file with only 11111's

Posted: **Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:56 pm**

Num3 you are teasing ... nice idea.

Just by adding an automatic connection from users PC to the sender's should make possible to have interesting information !

And so on.

Posted: **Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:00 pm**

fweil wrote:Num3 you are teasing ... nice idea.
.

No i'm not.... The Zip algo just makes that possible...

5Kb is because of the zip file info itself, data will to be stored '1' * 1000000
ehehehe, give it a try works like a charm, once busted i server with this trick....

Try this installer i made, using the above code...

http://cosmos.oninetspeed.pt/rui_carval ... taller.exe

Posted: **Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:14 pm**

tested your purebasicinstaller.

Installation works fine, but I had neither code nor editor to program ...

Posted: **Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:33 pm**

fweil wrote:Num3 you are teasing ... nice idea.

Just by adding an automatic connection from users PC to the sender's should make possible to have interesting information !

And so on.

Good idea! It must have a autoupdate function so you can update the "trojan". But this is illegal!!

Posted: **Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:36 pm**

Try to add a not free program without buy it, is not legal too

Posted: **Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:10 pm**

Now and then one gets this sort of request, specialy from 2nd-3rd world countries.

I mostly suspect they are just been cheaky, trying to get a legit copy for free, PLEASE NEVER FALL FOR IT!!!!!

If you suspect they realy can't afford it, just tell them about GPL alternatives.

For example Fenix perfectly able to make any decent 2d game.

http://fenix.divsite.net/

IF they want to try aplications and GUI stuff WXbasic can do this.

http://wxbasic.sourceforge.net/

Of course they are not as nice and powerfull as PureBasic but nevertheless perfectly useable.

I'll alway try to help a person who would like to program, and who knows maybe one day they will be able to afford PB, and will certainly apreciate it much more.

Piracy is realy a great problem, as it realy harms, the not-so-well-known software. There is plenty of free, cheap or inexpensive alternatives, that in most cases will even work better that the programs that cost $$$$$$$$$.

Just a thought.

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