PB2Web -- A PureBasic to JavaScript-Converter

[Danilo]

ps: we will release an alpha version probably later today so you can take a look by yourself (still very WIP but interesting to play with).

Already waiting for many hours. Watching SpiderBasic.com and SpiderBasic.fr.
Maybe at least some run-able web demos, after announcing it yesterday?

@J. Baker:
We already requested Linux and Mac OS X versions. Kiffi was just not sure
with some path stuff on the other platforms. Beside that, PB2Web should
run on all platforms, as it is basically just a text translator tool from PB to
HTML/JavaScript. Kiffi said he would like to concentrate on one version and
platform for now, for faster development. Should be cross-platform later,
if some guys are willing to help at PB2Web forums.

HTML/JS output already runs on more platforms in many browsers.
We tested some stuff on iPad, Surface 2 /RT, and Android devices already.

If Kiffi decides to make it OpenSource, it should instantly be available for
Linux and Mac OS X. Many experienced programmers could help speed up
development cycle and bug-hunting. The big advantage of OpenSource.

Don't forget, Fred announced a product in Alpha stage, after nearly one year of development.
Final product may be many month/years away, and I am pretty sure he wouldn't have announced it here already,
without PB2Web becoming too dangerous for him. PB2Web has been discussed in german forum for 8 month already,
and I'm pretty sure at least freak watched this threads and how many interest PB2Web generated and how
cool the idea is in general.
Now it just got too much international interest, after announcing PB2Web here, too.

Weird coincidence, bitter aftertaste.

[skywalk]

I think a pb web or mobile based tool was considered more than a year ago in Fred's interview.
And it has been requested many times in the forum for arm support.
It is very encouraging what Kiffi accomplished and now soon to be realized in a pb spinoff.
Can't wait to see spiderbasic.
Hope it includes access to SQLite and the 2D Drawing lib.

[J. Baker]

@Danilo

Yes, I'm sure it could be easily ported to OS X and Linux. I have been watching both PB2Web and PBtoHTML5 on the german forums. I actually have a later version of PBtoHTML5 then what's on the german forum and it's quite nice too.

As for SpiderBasic, this will help Fred and the PureBasic community as it would be more income and hopefully less worries of Fred having to get another job and slowing down newer releases. So while I congratulate Kiffi on his hard work, I would have to support SpiderBasic over the other two mentioned. As I know Fred will continue a long cross platform support for it where as sometimes other 3rd party projects have a short life.

It is definitely a sad situation for Kiffi in some respect but I wish all three apps a long and hopefully peaceful life span.

[Fred]

For the record, we discussed the web orientation with Timo about 3 years ago but I couldn't work on it due to my very limited available time (working at fulltime for a company). Web is everywhere since a while and it's the logical step to have the possibility to develop easily for it. As SpiderBasic is based on the current PB compiler (with a separate backend which output javascript instead of assembly code), it took a large amount of time to rewrite. Now, the compiler is fully validated by the PB unit test suit so the work is now focused on the libraries. More info on it in the forthcoming alpha.

btw: PB2Web isn't "dangerous" for us, it's just too close to the product we intend to market, and as a company we don't want to have a competing product advertised on our sites. It just plain logical and you won't find something like that anywhere else. You can continue the PB2Web discussion on its forums here: http://pb2web.de/forum/index.php

I'm closing the thread as all has been said.

@Danilo: it's coming probably tomorrow you can go to sleep safely