Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:48 am
AmenArgument ends.
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:43 am
Ok, I read that "Amen" but still just wanted to give my 2ct. ...
As a professional myself (15yrs+ experience) I'd highly recommend V2's
proposals, especially product placement, press and website re-design.
I'm not sure if the PB Team actually WANTS more attention (the more
attention you get the more freedom you lose) but all the things mentioned
WILL help in gaining more sales (not an entirely bad thing) and it seems like
there're a lot of people here willing to help, which means (next to) no cost.
V2: Very appealing logo btw
As a professional myself (15yrs+ experience) I'd highly recommend V2's
proposals, especially product placement, press and website re-design.
I'm not sure if the PB Team actually WANTS more attention (the more
attention you get the more freedom you lose) but all the things mentioned
WILL help in gaining more sales (not an entirely bad thing) and it seems like
there're a lot of people here willing to help, which means (next to) no cost.
V2: Very appealing logo btw
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:00 am
Yep I go along with that !
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:16 am
Welll how about a PB Website redesign Contest or something ? *g*
at least it would be a start =P The current one while simple structured is soo out of date ( also the screens etc. ).
just my 2 cents.
at least it would be a start =P The current one while simple structured is soo out of date ( also the screens etc. ).
just my 2 cents.
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:57 am
Well, it would make sense if Fred was interested, which doesn't seem to be the case 
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:17 pm
Fluid Byte wrote:History repeating ...
We have such threads about a website relaunch almost twice a year. A lot of people (me included) made several design concepts for a new website. The result was always the same like it will be here, NULL. You all have good intentions but this will unfortuneatly lead nowehere as long as Fred doesn't realize the serious need of a professional website as well as the introduction of basic marketing strategies.
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:28 pm
would be nice for purebasic to become a more universal language 
would be nice to see sources in pb not from any fan sites etc.
but it's all mostly in delphi vb or c++
would be nice to see sources in pb not from any fan sites etc.
but it's all mostly in delphi vb or c++
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:42 pm
What would be nice is to defeat PB bugs and to improve PB.
The other is nonsense.
The other is nonsense.
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:45 pm
Yeah, increasing sales and making money is nonsense. How could we even consider thinking about this? I guess we are just inferior compared to your intellect.
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:46 pm
Fred !! Now stop chasing them french women and give us some oppertunity ! 
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:29 pm
> increasing sales and making money is nonsense
For some people, yes. Money isn't everything. Obviously Fred is one of those,
because if he really wanted to make a bucketload of money from PureBasic,
then he would be pushing it harder with marketing than he currently is.
From what I've seen in the history of posts here, Fred went from working on
PureBasic part-time, to full-time, then back to part-time. He has never said
why, so we don't know if was due to lack of buyers, or time, or if it became
too bothersome, or what. But now that it's back to part-time, he obviously
doesn't need to rely on it for an income. Hence no need to update the web
site and so on.
For some people, yes. Money isn't everything. Obviously Fred is one of those,
because if he really wanted to make a bucketload of money from PureBasic,
then he would be pushing it harder with marketing than he currently is.
From what I've seen in the history of posts here, Fred went from working on
PureBasic part-time, to full-time, then back to part-time. He has never said
why, so we don't know if was due to lack of buyers, or time, or if it became
too bothersome, or what. But now that it's back to part-time, he obviously
doesn't need to rely on it for an income. Hence no need to update the web
site and so on.
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:42 pm
He went back to a Job since he was getting "lonely" all days with coffee and pizza in the evenings No Co-Workers to show off onto around .. =P
And there was something about a girlfirend i recall *g* - for the french sake some peaple actually have a life !
No Co-Workers to show off onto around .. =PAnd there was something about a girlfirend i recall *g* - for the french sake some peaple actually have a life !
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:52 pm
I'm not talking about a bucketload of money, just more money. And you need to understand, it's not about making Fred rich but to help spreading PureBasic. So maybe one day it will be as easy to find PB code for a certain problem as it is finding C++ or VB code today.
But afterall, I don't give a shit. It's Fred software, and as long the forum is active and the updates are coming I don't care.
But afterall, I don't give a shit. It's Fred software, and as long the forum is active and the updates are coming I don't care.
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:14 pm
agree! this is max priority.Psychophanta wrote:What would be nice is to defeat PB bugs and to improve PB.
...it would not help a least bit to Freds and our happiness,
to have ten thousand more customers complaining about bugs
and posting feature requests.
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:37 pm
lol.Kaeru Gaman wrote:...it would not help a least bit to Freds and our happiness,
to have ten thousand more customers complaining about bugs
and posting feature requests.
if PB had 10.000 sales over night, fixing bugs would be a problem nice to have...