Teddy Rogers wrote:Unfortunately Windows is not going to go anywhere anytime soon with or without privacy concerns...
Re-thinking it, you are probably right. People also use Facebook and other data/information collecting things,
because people seem to like free things, including free advertisements.

There was a time most people were annoyed by ads (free TV etc.), but now nobody wants to pay something anymore and
suddenly everybody accepts and even likes Freemium games/apps/social platforms including advertisements and collecting all personal data.
I still don't like the way all this is going to. It's not only scary, but I simply still don't want all that ads etc. - that's why I use Sky PayTV,
instead of annoying advertisement based free TV - with many channels being really dumb anyway. I mean lowest possible quality, really.
Quality goes down, people get less educated, real contacts are less and less - instead it's all Facebook friends, walking on the street
looking down at the Smartphone all time, and everything should be free with advertisements (Freemium). People don't even think about
all the data and personal information collecting platforms. They don't seem to care about privacy anymore.
It's crazy people accept all that. It's really a
culture in decline. Word by word: culture in decline.
Beside that, I've still seen Apple computer sales growing every quarter, while MS seems to have problems for quite some time.
Maybe there are still some people who like Premium and Quality. And, some people still care a little bit about security, privacy, etc.
I'm really wondering about the things MS is doing. I thought Win10 will be a better integrated and polished Win8, but I can't see that.
Same discussion in another programming forum:
Windows 10. The epic fail begins.
Some of the concerns:
The issue for me is why Windows 10 want's all this personal information in the first place?. I don't mind submitting crash logs, but browsing habits, content of files accessed, applications used, personal calendar dates, contacts, emails and the last time I had a shit just doesn't need to be known by MS for any reason whatsoever.
I'm quite tech savvy and can disable a lot of this stuff but I must admit that the shear intrusiveness of Windows 10 worries me a little. What don't we know yet?. Why do you want to know so much? is everything I do important to you? do you need to see the content of all my documents, emails and files?, is my internet browsing and searching really of that much importance?.
Sorry MS, but if I want to look at puppies vs cats videos on YouTube it's none of your business. I certainly don't want to see advert tiles afterwards regarding dog food after viewing such content either. I'm not a tin foil hat brigade person but there really is too much unneeded personal data being sent to you for no good reason at all bar becoming an in-app advert based OS.
I think I'll take a far back seat on this one and see what happens. I have Windows 10 in a virtual machine and there is will stay just for custom app compatibility testing. Beyond that, you are not getting access to anything for the time being.
What's pissed me off most about all this isn't the extraordinary liberties MS has granted itself with Windows 10 via its EULA (at the end of the day, they have told me at the outset what they intend doing, and [having just cancelled my reservation] as I write this I still have the option of not installing it) - it's the fact that "DiagTrack", one of the main culprits (if I have understood correctly), has sneaked its way into Windows 7 and 8.1 via a deliberately vague update description.
I find myself feeling uncomfortably paranoid all of a sudden. I am a musician (composer) by profession and am forced to go to great lengths to try and preserve my rights to things I create (all scores have to be sealed, officially date stamped and stored in a safe to be produced in court should someone later claim they wrote it). Does "DiagTrack" mean that everything I have written since MS updated Win7 and 8.1 could potentially have been uploaded to them without my knowing? I have found and disabled DiagTrack in both versions of Windows - but who knows what else MS have installed (or will install in the future) which does a similar thing?
While in this paranoid state - it's great to know that people feel reassured by the fact that a GUI option enables some of the privacy-invading functionality to be "switched off" in Win10 - but how do we know for certain that the button actually does anything other than change the image displayed on the screen?
I had to buy an iMac not so long ago to do a lot of post-production studio work - as a result, much of the software I need a Windows machine for became redundant. Maybe it's time for me to switch to Linux - I reckon I spend 50% of the time I'm on my PC playing games nowadays anyway - it looks like MS is doing me a favour by encouraging me to occupy that time more productively!
Good point. I supposed they snag all the source code everyone's working on, too. Then the MS servers that hold all this data get hacked (almost inevitably)...
The European digital rights organisation (EDRi) sums up the company’s 45 pages of terms and conditions by saying: “Microsoft basically grants itself very broad rights to collect everything you do, say and write with and on your devices in order to sell more targeted advertising or to sell your data to third parties.”
This kinda makes me think that Microsoft is willing to loose customers for this, what small business owner in their right mind would allow anyone to bug their office in such a manner? The mind boggles!
I agree. For businesses the risk can be much greater if their confidentiality is in peril. If microsoft loses thier confidence, the consequences for professional licenses could be worth millions and millions.
If I were apple/linux, I'd play on this. Do you all remember what happened when microsoft first presented the new xbox one? They shot themselves in the foot concerning thier planned previously owned games policy. At the time, Sony played on this big time which helped boost the reputation of the ps4 and sully the xbox one's reputation at the same time.
Apple/Linux, perhaps it's time to go in guns blaring. You could capture a nice portion of the market if you play the privacy/trust card correctly.
I have looked into my crystal ball and have seen the future:
Microsoft are right in saying that this is the last version of Windows ever!
After playing around with this OS for the last few days. It's nothing more than Windows 8 with a Start Menu, a few improved applications with some annoying ones remove to be replaced by ones that I will never use and cannot easily get rid of. The user interface still looks like a it's aimed at children, and the new mail program with it's lack of access to advanced settings is as much use as a chocolate fire guard in the middle of summer in the Sahara. Plus I suspect it is spyware, as after I did a clean install and set every thing up for a local account, it doesn't work any more. I guess they are trying to get every one to buy a subscription for Out Look.
I cannot in all honesty see businesses adopting this OS when the have recently just move to Window 7 and it's server equivalent. And with the amount of criticism that they have had over the years, especially in recently with NSA affair, this privacy issue with Windows 10 along with no clear indication of how to opt out, and the fact that giving the OS away free for the first year will affect the sale of new PC's. I cannot see them having much of a future if this is the way they are heading with collecting data.
etc., etc...
At least many tech people are concerned.