ProGUI V1.38 UI Library (Small Bug Fix)

[Poshu]

Chris, I strongly believe anyone on theses forums can see the value in ProGUI, and I really hope we (as a community) are smart enough to understand it's not worth illegally downloading an affordable product... So I think (hope?) it should not impact your sales.

[srod]

At least you haven't had some bone head asking, on this very thread, "where can I get a free copy of ProGUI?"

The cheek of some people is almost beyond belief. No wait, it is beyond belief.

By the way, where can I get a free copy of ProGUI?

[PrincieD]

Bubba -- put the keyboard away. A new day, edit the posts to simply be "removed"
Your work is appreciated. All projects start off slow....put the phone down too. and the ipad.

Done, and thanks for talking to me last night Josh, you're a good friend.

This type of thing is downright disgusting and the Gold member's lack of self-respect to do such low down thing.

I too found out someone in India cracked one of my software and upload onto a forum that do not accept new user registration.

Maybe you want to find some way to protect the source code distribution. Maybe some sort of water marking.

Yep it really hurts when you offer a very fair price and people still abuse that. Sorry to hear about your software being cracked too
I've already created some new mailing list software that digitally signs the source to the user details so it won't happen again hopefully.

You know, I was wondering why I'd hardly had any sales the past few months despite consistent downloads and interest on the forums. Guess I know why now

The short answer is "All software can be cracked/hacked/stolen/released"

The 1st time it happened to me, I was pissed.. then someone said "take it as a sign that your product is worth something"

yep true true mate, it was just a matter of time before it happened to me but I wish the timing would have been better. Talk about the universe trying to push a man over the edge! lol

also a competitor (http://www.teebo.com/) check em out is charging 45$ just for the menu control which isn't even a "floating" menu

I have their full set of OCX controls. Few years ago, they were very prompt in their email reply. But no more now. With VB6 a dead platform, they are now having a fire sale.

Since Vista (late 2006) and the issue with OCX/UAC, I prefer to move away from OCX.

Aye, personally I think it's better to have a simple flat API in DLL form that can be used with any language

Chris, I strongly believe anyone on theses forums can see the value in ProGUI, and I really hope we (as a community) are smart enough to understand it's not worth illegally downloading an affordable product... So I think (hope?) it should not impact your sales.

Thanks Poshu mate that makes me feel better

At least you haven't had some bone head asking, on this very thread, "where can I get a free copy of ProGUI?"

The cheek of some people is almost beyond belief. No wait, it is beyond belief.

By the way, where can I get a free copy of ProGUI?

haha lol cheers Steven

I'm not about to give up now anyway, not after nearly 6 years of hard work (the hours put in must be astronomical).
Thanks guys for your support and understanding and sorry for spilling my guts on the forum, it's not very professional of me but I'd like to think you're my friends too and not just users of ProGUI.

Cheers,

Chris.

[Zach]

Goddamnit what I did I miss

My internet has gone all borky on me so I did not get to see the posts before they were edited

Whoever released your code I hope you know who it was and also if you do, report them to relevant authorities anyway.

[PrincieD]

Goddamnit what I did I miss

My internet has gone all borky on me so I did not get to see the posts before they were edited

Whoever released your code I hope you know who it was and also if you do, report them to relevant authorities anyway.

lol yep you missed me being drunk and "going off my rocker". I suspect who it is that released the source but without hard proof all I can do is prevent it from happening again, which I've already done. All new versions of the source will be digitally signed to each user.

Chris.

[Kuron]

You know, I was wondering why I'd hardly had any sales the past few months despite consistent downloads and interest on the forums. Guess I know why now

Keep in mind that many in the community download simply to test for you and give you feedback.

If you want to be more profitable, you should consider targeting other communities and programming languages and heavily promote (and become active) within those communities.

I am very interested in your product, and will be buying it when finances allow. We are still trying to get out from under my wife's hospital bills, so it may be a long time before I can afford it. Times are tough for a lot of folks right now.

Goddamnit what I did I miss

I missed it, too. Probably best that I did.

[PrincieD]

Keep in mind that many in the community download simply to test for you and give you feedback.

Yes I do understand and appreciate this, that's also why ProGUI can be trialled for as long as you want and only when your software is ready then buy a license (or if you can afford to buy a license sooner).

If you want to be more profitable, you should consider targeting other communities and programming languages and heavily promote (and become active) within those communities.

That's definitely what is needed I think Kuron. Once I've got all my automated build tools working fully (source code translator already working great for PB to AutoIT code) then this is the direction that I will be pushing. Once I get the issues sorted with V1.30 I'll get the new AutoIt and Blitzmax examples updated.

I am very interested in your product, and will be buying it when finances allow. We are still trying to get out from under my wife's hospital bills, so it may be a long time before I can afford it. Times are tough for a lot of folks right now.

Thanks Kuron I appreciate it! and sorry to hear about your financial worries. Yep, It seems like a lot of people are struggling to survive these days (bloody banks and greedy politicians/companies! ). I sometimes forget that other people have problems too

Goddamnit what I did I miss

I missed it, too. Probably best that I did.

yup, probably best lol

Chris.

[Zach]

Do you already support C/C++ ? I thought I read somewhere you did, but I've never seen bindings/external files for it..

you'd probably make a lot of headway by supporting it more than the hobbyist languages.

[PrincieD]

Do you already support C/C++ ? I thought I read somewhere you did, but I've never seen bindings/external files for it..

you'd probably make a lot of headway by supporting it more than the hobbyist languages.

Hey Zach mate, yep you're right - I started writing a C/C++ wrapper a while back but the Major Update has been a priority to get some really good features into ProGUI. I don't even think the wrapper is necessary to be honest but the examples will need to be converted which will take some time (have to program in some new PB to C rules into the source code converter).

Chris.

[c4s]

I am very interested in your product, and will be buying it when finances allow.

I already said that some month ago, but: Me too!

[PrincieD]

I am very interested in your product, and will be buying it when finances allow.

I already said that some month ago, but: Me too!

hehe thank you also c4s

Chris.

[Ramihyn_]

If you want to be more profitable, you should consider targeting other communities and programming languages and heavily promote (and become active) within those communities.

Very much so.

Chris would probably be moderatly wealthy by now, if ProGUI would have been available for Unity3D. Many people where waiting for a better GUI system with version 3 but it wasn't really improved enough and too slow. The first person who offered a replacement GUI system, is among the top grossing sellers in the unity store for months now. It is too late now to enter that market, especially since Unity has finally promised to deliver their "new GUI system" and it will likely be released within the next 3 weeks or at least till april 2012 with the version after. But if ProGUI would have been available in a working version several months ago for Unity3D .....

[electrochrisso]

Hi Chris,
Wasn't on the web yesterday and missed your removed posts, but I get an idea of what has happened, and this really gives me a kick in the guts too.
This internet fraud is bloody well getting out of hand and I reckon it starts from really bad examples from the top level , and is making me a bit shaky considering I need to use it to try and generate income starting next year, mainly related to music stuff, and you know how low that has become.
Considering you are probably going to be making some substantial changes to the code for directX, the privilege that has been abused by that common thief, might not be of too much interest for people anyhow. You would have to be crazy to start using pirated copy of your code, especially in commercial projects, as it would probably be easy for you to check out if an app was developed using it, just by the way the controls work, then check a bit deeper into the order of the assembly.

Anyway sorry to hear about this mate, and I fully understand why you would get very pissed over this sort of crap from such low life people.

[IdeasVacuum]

Don't publish the source. You can instead pledge to release the source if you decide to stop developing ProGUI, or heaven forbid, something happens to you.

[electrochrisso]

Don't publish the source. You can instead pledge to release the source if you decide to stop developing ProGUI

I think this might take some shine off ProGUI, as I like to look into Chris's great coding, so I can better understand how things work, especially the API. This was one of the main reasons that made my mind up to buy.
Perhaps Chris could set up trusted customers database, who are willing to send Chris some sort of signed pledge (contract), with perhaps some personal details, by snail mail, that need to be replied by a real return address with confirmation.