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C Boss wrote:Forget it !

The Computer Workshop has no interest in spending the time and resources in developing for PureBasic.

Talented as you are, you should be able to easily make $90,000/yr, working for a company.
Maybe you are just too advanced for PureBasic?
I bet other companies hire you with pleasure, so what's the problem?

Well, reading what the guy is now saying, I honestly think he has things completely upside down. As it turns out, our community is a very closed minded one (apparently ) and yet it is clear that Chris cannot even entertain the idea that he may have to adapt EzGUI to an ever changing world. At the very least he should think about x64 support because how much longer is Wow64 going to be about? I can see that disappearing in the not too distant future.

But well, his loss. If EzGUI does not evolve then I cannot see much of a future for it myself. But then, that may just be me.

C Boss wrote:It is easy for some to just think, "why not just switch languages and simply move to this one and get over it". It is not that easy. I have nearly 60,000 lines of code {snip}
It is no secret that PowerBasic is having some very serious problems and all of these advanced WIN32 programmers of their community know this and are looking at alternatives. I am just one of that group. PureBasic is one of the more obvious choices for them and a flood of advanced developers of tools for Windows could come to Purebasic if it embraced it.
{snip}

In case that you are not really gone
(although the mental image that I'm getting here is that you are running away with your tail between your legs),
but in case you still have some hope for us and are gracing us with your presence...
Boss, in the last line that I quoted, to what does the last word "it" refer?

C Boss wrote:Forget it !

Fred, sorry to bother you all here and please delete my account. Purebasic appears to have all it needs for future development here, at least in the words of the more vocal posters.

The Powerbasic Third Party developers obviously are not needed here. At least not my company.

The Computer Workshop has no interest in spending the time and resources in developing for PureBasic. I am sorry I waste your time.

I think you just might be a tiny bit confusing your need for PureBasic and PureBasic's need for you.

I have nearly 60,000 lines of code which would have to be ported over to Purebasic and that is the GUI engine alone.

That is actually pretty small. It needs to be double that to meet my personal definition of large and even then it would be on the low end of large.

The point is that with Powerbasic, it was the experienced low level WIN32 programmers who were building all the really good stuff. A number of great custom controls were developed by some of these programmers, like EGrid, RMChart, SIGrid and MLG. A couple of these developers built some really powerful Visual Designers which come close to the level of say Visual Basic. Paul Squires FireFly was the most popular and stable. His was very good. Dominic Mitchells Phoenix, while a little buggy at times and less popular, still put most to shame. I have to give him credit, he is one good programmer and I was very impressed with what he has done. His Visual Designer would put all of the indie Basic language IDE's and Designers to shame. His looked more like something coming from one of the big companies, like Microsoft or Intel. Patrice Terriers graphic engine is making big inroads into the WINDEV community (which is a very expensive, high level RAD development system) and he is doing things which likely amaze them. His knowledge of the many different graphic engines in Windows is extensive (GDI, GDIplus, DirectX,OpenGL, Windows Desktop Manager). Then their is Jose Roca and his programming forums. Some of the best of the best PowerBasic programmers discuss all sorts of advanced stuff there. Jose Roca's versions of the Windows API headers is one of the most extensive and well done among PowerBasic users.

I made a point of telling you two things about this community. One was big egos will be bruised here. The second thing I told you explained the first. The second thing I told you was in the PowerBASIC community, the skilled coders were in the minority. The exact opposite is true here in the PureBasic community. Here, the skilled coders are in the majority. I mean no disrespect to Paul Squires as he is somebody I like and somebody I have a massive amount of respect for, the others I don't care if they are offended, but the simple truth is many here could easily outcode those you have named, and routinely do. When I told you that the PureBasic community is the most skilled, talented and knowledgeable I have even encountered, I meant it. I told you they are the best of the best.

As a note to Paul Squires: Over the years here, there have been several, like Paul (username PB) who have expressed they would buy a VB-like GUI editor/IDE for PB the moment it is released.

You mentioned grid controls, those you mentioned pale in comparison to SROD's grid control which IS the standard all grid controls should be judged by. I have tried them all. Unfortunately mediocrity has always been the accepted norm in the PowerBASIC community, so half-assed grid controls were perfectly acceptable to PowerBASIC users. When I wanted a usable grid control to use with PowerBASIC, I had to buy SROD's and nag him to provide support for PowerBASIC. Now, SROD and I had a big falling out after I invited him and his family over for dinner and he brought his pet Fangles who chewed up the legs on my family heirloom sofa that came from Walmart. In spite of our falling out over this irreplaceable antique, I am sure he can't forget how much I nagged him to support PowerBASIC. He probably still has nightmares about it.

But if the cross platform priority is more important than benefiting from a flood of experienced low level API programmers or if the Purebasic community simply proudly snubs this available resource, then they will go elsewhere.

If we were to match the ten best active members of the PowerBASIC community and put them against the ten best active members of the PureBasic community and design a "code off", the user here known as netmaestro would win, hands down.

Unless one is targeting contract work or targeting companies, most here are indie developers. The most profitable software for indie developers right now on Windows has been casual games for several years. In particular, Match 3, Solitaire variants and Hidden Object games. Most people would rather gouge their eyeballs out with a melon baller than write one of those, so they have to go where the $$ is and the consumer demand is and support users of the three major OSes. So, for many people who make their living as programmers, Windows-only is not acceptable just due to the lack of consumer demand.

Considering that PowerBASIC (and any software written in PowerBASIC) will not even run on many default installs of two of the last three versions of Windows that were released, PowerBASIC is really not going to be usable much longer in the professional sector when it will not even run on the last two OSes aimed at its target demographic. Windows 2008 R2 and Windows 2012 are 64-bit only and are being widely adopted by major businesses and corporations. Many default installs will NOT have 32-bit emulation (Wow64) installed as it is considered optional. Due to the security restriction on the server environments for many companies, 32-bit emulation will NOT be allowed to be installed. This is why I had to quit using PowerBASIC for contract work and had to move to PureBasic. I needed something that would actually work on modern versions of Windows.

Don't get me wrong, PowerBASIC is still fine for hobby users or those targeting small businesses, or other niche markets, where 32-bit is acceptable and can still be used, but for larger companies, it is increasingly dead.

For those moving from PowerBASIC, to another BASIC, there is no other choice but PureBasic. Yes, you produced a list of legacy BASICs, most of which are dead or unsupported, most of which are interpreted or compile to bytecode and are slower than black strap molasses trying to flow uphill on a cold winter day. PureBasic is the ONLY compiled BASIC that is still alive and still actively developed and supported. This is not an opinion. PureBasic is the only BASIC capable of working NATIVELY on all modern versions of Windows. This is NOT something PowerBASIC is capable of. PowerBASIC can only run under emulation on 64-bit versions of Windows and will not run at all on many installs of 2008 R2 and 2012. Emulation is NOT running NATIVELY. Emulation is what is used when your legacy software will not properly support the OS or the hardware it is trying to run on.

You are prattling on about NATIVE, but it is quite hypocritical when your own software will NOT run NATIVELY on any 64-bit version of Windows and will not run at all on many installs of 2008 R2 and 2012.

The choice for those moving from PowerBASIC is PureBasic or C/C++.

Sadly, many of them fear the problems of using any indie language, especially if it was built by a one or two man team. When Bob Zale died it was obvious to them the danger os using such languages is. Big companies always have someone to take someones place, but the little companies like PowerBasic or PureBasic, it is not so reassuring.

Here, you are speaking out of turn. Fred has publicly stated if he were to ever drop support of PureBasic he would either make it open source, or he would release it to a group of selected community members to continue. Fred has kept his word. When the Amiga version was dropped, it was made open source. If something were to happen to Fred, given that this is a two man team there would be a surviving team member to see that Fred's wishes were carried out.

Treat them like newbies and make them unwelcome and PureBasic could be pushing away some of the most talented WIN32 programmers around.

We have already discussed the ratios of talent in the communities. But the simple fact is, you are a newbie to PureBasic. Once you can accept that simple fact, instead of trying to Boss Hogg your way around here, you will find you get along just fine. Since I made my posts about PureBasic on your forums, one person has bought PureBasic based on my recommendation and joined the community. Another person has joined the community and I do not know if he has bought PureBasic yet. There have also been many active PowerBASIC users who have been on these forums for ages. None of them have had any issues getting along with others and fitting in. This issue seems unique to you.

The two recent joins I mentioned, have been respectful and in return the community has been respectful back and has bent over backwards to help them. The law of Douns in practice. Do un to others as you would have them do un to you. If me, of all people, has to be the one to explain this to you, there is something seriously wrong here.

As I said, big egos will be bruised here. Egos need to be left at the door. To use an old phrase, most will be out-gunned here. For those who do not get the phrase, it simply means no matter how good you think you are, there are people far more talented than you here.

I noticed the screenshots of the projects made with EZGUI that you posted, were quickly yanked. I am glad you did that. A product should be able to stand on its own merits and not have to stand on the backs of its users and the work of others. Also, the screenshots were not helping your case. Conceptually, they sound like very interesting products, but graphically and visually, they were straight out of the 90s, and really do not work for trying to promote a GUI product in 2014.

This talent pool could bring in some amazing new third party tools which can help push PureBasic even further.

The thing is, is nobody has pushed this talent pool away. You have come in and basically told everybody they are untalented idiots. For this talent pool to make any contributions, they have to actually produce something for the PureBasic community to embrace. So far, the talent pool has only produced hot air. With the time you have wasted prattling on, you could have had your standalone VD ported to PureBasic. With your self-proclaimed talent, something that small is truly a weekend job. It could have been on sale Monday morning and I would have been first in line to buy it.


I do think there is room for another VD or a product like EZGUI, or even both. Compared to the native GUI designer PB used to have, what we have now is fabulous, and Polo has done a wonderful job on it. But, there are some people who do not like it and would happily use another product if one were available that we liked.

The disrespect shown on these forums is why I do not have any desire to develop for Purebasic. I respect the right to disagree, but the tone of the comments borders on meanness simply put.

While the more negative voices love to be vocal, you may be surprised that some have PM'ed me already telling me not to listen to those voices and to seriously consider PureBasic.

I never said that myself (or other Powerbasic programmers) were better than PureBasic programmers. I only stated that the pool of the more experienced Powerbasic programmers was talented and had a lot to offer if welcomed here. Also it is strange to say on one hand cross platform is most important and on the other that there are many talented WIN32 programmers among Purebasic users. I simply wanted know if many were Windows only programmers and a WIN32 programmer is less likely be doing cross platform development, unless they are an expert in multiple platforms to the same degree as they are with the WIN32 and that is a challenge. And I know, that not everything can be done the same on multiple platforms so there are always compromises with cross platform development, so an experienced WIN32 programmer is more likely to target Windows olnly so they can take full advantage of what the OS offers.

Some here are obviously checking out my forums to see what I am saying there. I will say the same thing here that I said on my own forums. I respect having differing opinions, but I do not accept the downgrading of individuals. Kuron, if you are who I think you are (one of my customers), do not feel such kind of talk will ever be allow on my forums. In give some latitude, but I don't tolerate the disrespect if a single member of my support forums. You have pushed the limits many times on different forums and I have tried to be as kind as possible. It is easy to make strong comments on a forum like this one when people use an alias, but not as easy on a forum where real names are required. The Powerbasic forums and forums run by some experienced Powerbasic users have all enforced the rule of real names for member names. It brings a higher level of professionalism to the forums because it does not allow people to hide behind an alias.

The member name I used for this forum is C Boss which stands for Chris Boss. I would have used Chris Boss, but for some reason I had a problem when registering (maybe I used it a long time agao with an old email address) and it would not work. Just so you know who you are deriding, so you realize it is a real person on the other side.

I don't know Fred and I assume he a good guy by the comments I have heard about him over the years. But let me say this much. Bob Zale would have stopped any denigrading of individuals on his forums in a minute. Bob censored me when I deserved it, but I never resent it. So the old PowerBasic forums had one advantage over these forums, even if Purebasic is ten times better than PowerBasic, I prefer a civil environment.

I have definitely wasted my time here. No harm was meant, but it is not a place I want to revisit.

Danilo wrote:Good luck and welcome to PureBasic!

This are well-meant, well-considered, sincere suggestions:
- Posting 1
- Posting 2
- Posting 3


I tried to help you, and I still not understand what you really want.

Do you want to get hired by Fred, giving you a cheque up-front?
Do you want us to port your 60,000 lines of code to PureBasic?

You still don't understand the PureBasic way.
You suggest now to stop PureBasic's cross-platform compatibility
and push Win32, because it is the only thing you are able to do.
You want to split our long-lasting community here, and you show
absolutely no respect to anyone else who is not a PowerBasic god.

Your point of view is: You are the god developer, we are indie coders.
We welcome you here, making suggestions, and all you do is bashing PureBasic
and its community.
You hate PureBasic, and you hate indie developers from the bottom of you heart. Just speak it out!
You come here only because superior PowerBasic is dead. The PowerBasic elite club is dead.

Please stop it! Sit down, learn PureBasic and the PureBasic way,
and then come back with products for PureBasic.

Maybe you would make a good sales promotion person. So much talking without any result.

C Boss wrote:The disrespect shown on these forums is why I do not have any desire to develop for Purebasic. I respect the right to disagree, but the tone of the comments borders on meanness simply put.

While the more negative voices love to be vocal, you may be surprised that some have PM'ed me already telling me not to listen to those voices and to seriously consider PureBasic.

I never said that myself (or other Powerbasic programmers) were better than PureBasic programmers. I only stated that the pool of the more experienced Powerbasic programmers was talented and had a lot to offer if welcomed here. Also it is strange to say on one hand cross platform is most important and on the other that there are many talented WIN32 programmers among Purebasic users. I simply wanted know if many were Windows only programmers and a WIN32 programmer is less likely be doing cross platform development, unless they are an expert in multiple platforms to the same degree as they are with the WIN32 and that is a challenge. And I know, that not everything can be done the same on multiple platforms so there are always compromises with cross platform development, so an experienced WIN32 programmer is more likely to target Windows olnly so they can take full advantage of what the OS offers.

Some here are obviously checking out my forums to see what I am saying there. I will say the same thing here that I said on my own forums. I respect having differing opinions, but I do not accept the downgrading of individuals. Kuron, if you are who I think you are (one of my customers), do not feel such kind of talk will ever be allow on my forums. In give some latitude, but I don't tolerate the disrespect if a single member of my support forums. You have pushed the limits many times on different forums and I have tried to be as kind as possible. It is easy to make strong comments on a forum like this one when people use an alias, but not as easy on a forum where real names are required. The Powerbasic forums and forums run by some experienced Powerbasic users have all enforced the rule of real names for member names. It brings a higher level of professionalism to the forums because it does not allow people to hide behind an alias.

The member name I used for this forum is C Boss which stands for Chris Boss. I would have used Chris Boss, but for some reason I had a problem when registering (maybe I used it a long time agao with an old email address) and it would not work. Just so you know who you are deriding, so you realize it is a real person on the other side.

I don't know Fred and I assume he a good guy by the comments I have heard about him over the years. But let me say this much. Bob Zale would have stopped any denigrading of individuals on his forums in a minute. Bob censored me when I deserved it, but I never resent it. So the old PowerBasic forums had one advantage over these forums, even if Purebasic is ten times better than PowerBasic, I prefer a civil environment.

I have definitely wasted my time here. No harm was meant, but it is not a place I want to revisit.

I for one will miss you should you leave us, please stay Boss.
Based on your long 5 year 11 month evaluation of PureBasic, I'm sure that you have plenty of insight to share.
As far as the "Computer Workshop is considering PureBasic support" goes, I doubt if we could support you.

BTW, I consider it mean to force users of your forum to use their legal name.
Meanness is subjective.
And that threat to Kuron is totally over the top ugly, makes me want to like the guy.
Therefore, I hereby retract the first sentence of this post.

Take that, Sigmund.

Win32GOD wrote:The disrespect shown on these forums...

Where I heard this before ?

Poffarbacco, was Ion Saliu -> http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... =7&t=47993

Another one who came expecting something he didn't get, and left totally pissed off in record time.

I'm starting to see a pattern here. Third is the charm, they say. Let's wait.

I hope for Napoleon.

I think the more troubling thing is that Win32 API programmers are supposed to be considered talented. If they were talented wouldn't they be using something other than legacy APIs that have been deprecated?

My deepest apologies to the community and to Fred for suggesting that Chris try and extend the life of his products by supporting the only remaining BASIC. Obviously, sometimes when you stick your neck out for a friend, they take an axe and chop off your head. I think most in the community here know where the fault in this situation truly lies, as it is quite evident from the posts. Chris is quite famous for tantrums and stopping off and his behavior is one of the reasons he is not well liked or respected in the PowerBASIC community, as he does this same thing in that community, too.

As I pointed out, those who recently joined from the PowerBASIC community have been no problem and most who join will not be a problem. Most are rational and and respectable. Due to the issues with PowerBASIC I have been reaching out and trying to help those who are lost find their way to PureBasic.

The problem many in PowerBASIC like Chris have is due to the "conditioning" of PowerBASIC's author that resulted in it becoming a religion for some people. PowerBASIC for Windows did not adhere to BASIC standards but is heralded as the best thing ever even though it never progressed from 1995 standards. Bob Zale created a closed ecosystem and did not target new technology, routinely had third-party support sites shut down with legal threats, threatened third-party tool vendors (Paul Squires can back me up on this) and those he couldn't shut down he tried to coax to putting all of their example code on the official site so he would have complete control the distribution of all things PowerBASIC related. Heck, Bob Zale and I got into it several times back in the DOS days over the PowerBASIC section I had on my BBS that I ran, so this behavior went on for decades. Because of the closed ecosystem, many users were simply passed by when it comes to technology, new software standards and the directions the markets were taking.

Chris's lack of experience on computer technology in general is quite evident, especially in the professional sector. He asks about people targeting banks, when RISC-based systems are still the most dominant in use. He asks about manufacturing, when major manufacturers are also NOT using Windows based systems. Small manufacturers are still using Windows, and even DOS based systems, but the major manufacturers, like banks, are often using RISC-based systems. Windows really only comes into play in manufacturing if you need advanced graphical abilities. He thinks his use of deprecated, legacy APIs makes him more talented than everybody else, even when his software does not run natively on modern versions of Windows, even after stressing how important native support is. He blasts PureBasic for using industry standard libraries and blasts Fred for not writing everything himself, yet heralds Windows which is a hodgepodge of code that has not been written by Microsoft. Whether Internet Explorer, imaging components, the cd burner, the AV program, DirectX (which modern versions of Windows are built on) on down the line of of other core parts of Windows, all of these were third-party code that was licensed from other companies, taken from other companies and settled out of court over (and in some cases like the Stacker fiasco, Microsoft had to remove the infringing code), or Microsoft has simply bought the other company and assimilated their products. They are the Borg of the software industry.

Anyway, the point was, when people like Chris get out of their comfort zone of the closed ecosystem, they are truly clueless and do not know their ass from a hole in the ground and are trying to get by with competing with their limited 90-s era knowledge in a world that has largely passed them by and they simply don't understand and can't even begin to comprehend. Most from the PowerBASIC community are good people and will fit in well here, or in any other community.

I also find it odd that given Chris's infatuation with PowerBASIC, he can't spell it properly or spell BASIC itself properly. Odd...

I am an advocate of BASIC, and I have been since the 70s. A while back, there was a discussion on another forum as to why BASICs were all but dead. My view was because they simply never adapted to changing technology and did not properly support new industry standards like 64-bit, cross-platform, etc. I still think I am right, as any BASIC that is not cross-platform and does not support 64-bit is dead to taking its last few breaths. I pointed out PureBasic as the BASIC that "got it right" and still has a bright future. Somebody else thought the reason was the BASIC trolls, people like Chris who will join a BASIC community and try and rip it apart by their grandiose behavior. At the time I disagreed with that person at the time, but after the last two days or so dealing with Chris, there is a lot of truth to his words.

I have always been of the opinion, no matter what you know, you can always learn something new from somebody else, whether they are more skilled than you, or not. Nobody knows everything, at least not in the computer industry which is changing on a daily basis. One person may be skilled at one thing, another may be skilled at something else. I get by because my mind is a sponge and I soak up and learn from those around me. There has simply never been a group of people I have learned from more than the fine group of users here. PureBasic users are simply the best of the best.

Again I am sorry for unleashing this troll on the community. I hope all will accept my apology.

Can all this bickering please stop? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

After reading some rather wordy posts, I am still in the dark on what it is you are wanting to do C Boss.

I can see what you have done in the past, but that is the past. This is now, so what are you wanting to do?

If you can give a brief answer on that, then we might be able to answer you properly.

Unfortunately, wordy posts are hard to read and misunderstanding is rife, which is what has happened on this thread.

Kuron, if you are who I think you are (one of my customers), do not feel such kind of talk will ever be allow on my forums. In give some latitude, but I don't tolerate the disrespect if a single member of my support forums. You have pushed the limits many times on different forums and I have tried to be as kind as possible. It is easy to make strong comments on a forum like this one when people use an alias, but not as easy on a forum where real names are required. The Powerbasic forums and forums run by some experienced Powerbasic users have all enforced the rule of real names for member names. It brings a higher level of professionalism to the forums because it does not allow people to hide behind an alias.

I have been known as Kuron online since 1980 and in computer groups since the 70s. I am hardly hiding behind a name. I have remained VERY respectful, it is a shame you can't treat others with respect. You have clearly showed utter hostility and contempt for fellow community members here while stomping around being a grandiose prick. For professional reasons, I cannot associate with somebody who does business in the manner you do. So you are clear on this, I am no longer one of your customers and I am requesting you delete my account from your forums.

For those not in the know, approximately 12 hours ago, Chris contacted me by email asking me to have Fred deactivate his license and said that he had decided NOT to support PureBasic. His posts since then when he had already decided NOT to support PureBasic... well... that kind of speaks for itself, doesn't it?

I have been assured by Fred the license and account have been removed and I apologized to Fred for inviting this troublemaker here.

Ok, Fred edited my early post but it was not fair.

Kuron (if he is who I think he is) is the one who contacted Fred about me. I have been long time third party developer of tools for Powerbasic programmers.

Likely many know the trouble PowerBasic is in, so Kuron likely felt he was doing me a favor.

Fred sent me a free license to Purebasic and Kuron told me it was so I could develop stuff for PureBasic.

To me this is a message from the compiler developer (not the community) that he would appreciate support for his compiler and that what I have already done for PowerBasic would be useful to Purebasic users. So I did not come to this forum as some newbie interested in PureBasic, but as a representative of my company trying to touch based with the actual community to see whether my companies experience in building programming tools would benefit them. I needed know if very many were Windows only programmers. What kind of tools may they be lacking and whether anything of what I already have would be useful to them and worth modifying them to make Purebasic capable would be worth the time and effort. My company has nearly a decade and half years of experience in developing tools based on the WIN32.

So Kuron initated this and Fred implied by giving me a free license that my companies services could benefit his user base (you don't just give away licenses to anybody).

So instead of a friendly hello, I had Fred quickly PM that he edited the part of the free license bit so as not to offend those who paid for it. Then I get the second degree and no moderator stepping in to tone it down. The few friendly voices were those who PM'ed me and that was the kind of civility was hoping for from the forums.

I can deal with PureBasic not being a good fit for what my company does.

I can accept that Purebasic programmers are a talented bunch.

I can accept that cross platform is critical to Purebasic users so a Windows only solution is probably not viable for most.

I learned that from this thread.

What I can not accept is the total disrespect and lack of professionalism of many of its members who took it upon themselves to give me the tenth degree.

Fred initiated part of this by sending me a free license. That sent an implied message by the that action, which Fred is responsible for.

His lack of willingness to let the community know he did that, put my presence here in a bad light even before I posted a word.

To be honest, I still have Purebasic on my radar and may actually buy a license for my own inhouse use.

Fred can have his free license back (I had not even installed it yet, but was only using the demo version).

Kuron didn't help, even though I respect is knowledge and talent, because he didn't even attempt to try to help me ease myself into this.

I have seen this kind of behavior on multiple forums where a select few speak for the entire community and consider it their right to denegrate anyone who they feel doesn't fit their idea of a proper member.

C Boss wrote:Fred initiated part of this by sending me a free license. That sent an implied message by the that action, which Fred is responsible for....

Kuron didn't help, even though I respect is knowledge and talent, because he didn't even attempt to try to help me ease myself into this.

Ahh, so it is Fred's fault and my fault that you are an asshole.

I do apologize to Fred and the community for inviting him here.

C Boss wrote: Bob Zale would have stopped any denigrading of individuals on his forums in a minute.

You are right, he was well known for suffering from short-man disease. Oddly enough, he put down users on a regular basis on his forums. Like you, and most bullies, he could dish it out, but couldn't take it.

I am sorry if you are butt-hurt over the way you have been treated here, but it is 100% on you and your own damn fault. People simply treated you in the exact same way you treated them

Just because you have never managed to progress your coding skills past the 90s, don't shit all over those who have passed you by and kept up with technology.