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Still, they are musings of failure.

Fun to read indeed

Blood wrote:I agree PB has a future but lets get real, its lack of OOP support means it will never be more than a small hobby language that never gets used for big projects.

OOP is in your mind.

Some languages offer more or less 'facilities' to implement your OOP approach through code.

You can do OOP in C (http://www.cs.rit.edu/~ats/books/ooc.pdf). You can do OOP in PureBasic and you can do procedural programming in C++. It's all in your mind and hands.

PureBasic offers two OOP 'facilities': Interfaces and Interface/Structure inheritance.

This gives you something intermediate between C an C++ in terms of 'facilities' or 'support' (closer to C than C++, I agree, but still very pleasant to use compared to C).

My company is using it for a 'big project', granted a 3d application framework can be seen as a 'big project'.

grabiller wrote:

Blood wrote:I agree PB has a future but lets get real, its lack of OOP support means it will never be more than a small hobby language that never gets used for big projects.

OOP is in your mind.

Some languages offer more or less 'facilities' to implement your OOP approach through code.

You can do OOP in C (http://www.cs.rit.edu/~ats/books/ooc.pdf). You can do OOP in PureBasic and you can do procedural programming in C++. It's all in your mind and hands.

PureBasic offers two OOP 'facilities': Interfaces and Interface/Structure inheritance...

grabiller, you are correct here of course, however, not having OOP as an officially supported construct alienates potential users who are too naive (i.e. uncomfortable, unaware...) to use one of the libraries that are available. If Fred were to implement one of those libraries to native commands with information in the Help file, those fears would be eliminated, and PB could appeal to a larger audience.

Native component support on Windows is missing... Would be very welcome. You can do all kind of nice things with components on Windows. See many new and old vbscript samples. Things that are hard to do with only win32. Also, WinRT in Windows 8 is component based.

Rinzwind wrote:Native component support on Windows is missing... Would be very welcome. You can do all kind of nice things with components on Windows. See many new and old vbscript samples. Things that are hard to do with only win32.

Wrong thread. You need to post wishes in the "Feature Requests and Wishlists" section.

yep I know, but it's already known that it is a requested feature Somewhat along the lines of the OOP posts above.

Maybe this isn't the right thread to post in, but I just wanted to add some warm fuzzies somewhere.

I used to program when I was in high school using Visual Basic. When VB.NET came out, it hurt my brain with the changes. I have always been good at troubleshooting, but programming was always a hurdle that I couldn't really get past. With Visual Basic I could write programs, I could get somewhere with my code, but I hated it's dependencies and OCX files and so on. I eventually gave up on VB6 as it was becoming clear it wasn't going to continue working for me, and VB.NET never made sense to me from even an IDE standpoint.

I found PureBasic a while back while looking for a game engine, and although I tried Gamer Maker and Torgue2D/TGB, I kept wondering why I couldn't find that spark that made me feel progress and a desire to improve my programming skills. I basically got overwhelmed or bored, because I couldn't create anything, which made me upset and I never got anywhere. I finally caved and bought PureBasic for my birthday in September, and so far I've written a beginning text RPG (very early, was using it to learn) and I've written a program to communicate with a server using plink.

The IDE is fantastic. I love how dead simple it is. For some reason every language I seem to enjoy never has auto-complete, but PureBasic does. I can compile for a different OS, I can make 64-bit specific versions, writing/reading a database and so many things that were brutally difficult at times in other languages are almost stupidly simple.

So, I hope that PureBasic has a long future ahead of it, because it's the second language I've used in my life that just clicks perfectly for me.

The IDE is fantastic. I love how dead simple it is. For some reason every language I seem to enjoy never has auto-complete, but PureBasic does. I can compile for a different OS, I can make 64-bit specific versions, writing/reading a database and so many things that were brutally difficult at times in other languages are almost stupidly simple.

PLUS the absolutely amazing help file (thanks Andre) and the very helpful community (yes, you, and you and you ....).

Just added a new quote to the list (it's been over a year since the quote was posted) where the person thinks PureBasic has "tardy" updates. With 8 separate beta updates recently (over a 4-month period!) and version 5.00 having just gone final, I think it's safe to say that person should hang their head in shame.

koehler wrote: Would college girls start lusting after PB Nerds?
No, No, and No.

I cannot express myself enough to tell you how very, very disappointing that is. <deep, deep, very deep sigh>

(Hehe, Google adds just came up with a few banners related to Russian women and Chinese dates )

blueznl wrote: I cannot express myself enough to tell you how very, very disappointing that is. <deep, deep, very deep sigh>

(Hehe, Google adds just came up with a few banners related to Russian women and Chinese dates )

I'm so overwhelmed by all those generous offers that I've forgotten what I intended to write.

New quote added where the user said PureBasic is so close to abandonware.

MachineCode wrote:New quote added where the user said PureBasic is so close to abandonware.

The funniest thing about that particular quote is that it was posted three months after an update. In 2010-2011 we waited well over a year for an update; if ever (in recent years) it was reaching that point, it was then.

MachineCode wrote:New quote added where the user said PureBasic is so close to abandonware.

Please post the authors' names, it is very important!!