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Re: Get the Princess!
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:33 pm
by blueznl
Be carefull how you read 'and'.
If a sign says:
room x is empty and room y is empty
and the sign is false, then this doesn't mean there's something in BOTH rooms, if either room would contain something the sign would still qualify as a lie!
I still stick to my room 7 solution. Bring on the princess and the tigers!
Re: Get the Princess!
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:11 pm
by PMV
sure, but if the princess is in there, the sign is true ... so that means both
rooms must contain something.

Re: Get the Princess!
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:28 pm
by Rook Zimbabwe
It took me 15 seconds to see that she is in 7...

Re: Get the Princess!
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:16 am
by idle
The savant part of the my brain said room 7, though I'm not about to confuse myself and try to work it out.
Skylt 2 är fel och rum 8 är tomt.
Shouldn't Room 6 read
6. Sign 2 is in the wrong place And Room 8 is empty.
instead of
6. Sign 2 is false and room 8 is empty.
might make a bit of a difference to applying the logic
On each of the eight doors there was a sign. The sign on the door of the princess was true, while the signs on the doors of the tigers were false. The signs on the empty rooms were either true or false.
1. Room 4 is Not empty.
2. Sign 5 is Right And the princess is Not in this room.
3. Rooms 2 And 7 are Not empty.
4. Room 1 is Not empty.
5. Sign 6 is Right.
6. Sign 2 is in the wrong place And Room 8 is empty.
7. The Princess is in a room with an odd number
8. This room contains a tiger And Sign 3 is wrong.
Re: Get the Princess!
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:20 am
by KJ67
idle wrote:Shouldn't Room 6 read
6. Sign 2 is in the wrong place And Room 8 is empty.
instead of
6. Sign 2 is false and room 8 is empty.
Translations are always a little tricky, but lets have a go at it.
My version of this translation into English, with a touch of logic would be;
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6. Skylt 2 är fel och rum 8 är tomt.
6. (Sign 2 is false/wrong) AND (room 8 is empty).
It does not imply that the sign is in the wrong place, just that Sign-#2's statement is false.
Re: Get the Princess!
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:00 am
by idle
KJ67 wrote:
It does not imply that the sign is in the wrong place, just that Sign-#2's statement is false.
Thanks for the clarification, I think I just associated "Wrong" with "Wrong place" from seeing another variation of the puzzle.
Re: Get the Princess!
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:11 am
by Trond
idle wrote:KJ67 wrote:
It does not imply that the sign is in the wrong place, just that Sign-#2's statement is false.
Thanks for the clarification, I think I just associated "Wrong" with "Wrong place" from seeing another variation of the puzzle.
translate.google.com translates it as "wrong place", but that is definetely a false translation.