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Re: Pure "Basic" holding back potential customers?
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:28 pm
by rsts
skywalk wrote:Don't change the name...change the spelling.
From PureBasic
To PurebasiC

How does that change the spelling? Capitalization maybe, but spelling?
cheers
Re: Pure "Basic" holding back potential customers?
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:41 pm
by Foz
From PB to PC.
I dislike being Politically Correct.

Re: Pure "Basic" holding back potential customers?
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:51 pm
by Kaeru Gaman
Kuron wrote:You have some artistic talent.
thank you.

Re: Pure "Basic" holding back potential customers?
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:04 pm
by Kuron
That is a rare trait for programmers

Re: Pure "Basic" holding back potential customers?
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:28 pm
by skywalk
@rsts...
You got me...but is this a programmer's forum?
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If Asc("C") = Asc("c")
Debug "hooray for rsts"
Else
Debug "cheers"
EndIf
I really like the suggested C dump of PureBasiC code.

Re: Pure "Basic" holding back potential customers?
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:53 pm
by rsts
skywalk wrote:@rsts...
You got me...but is this a programmer's forum?
Code: Select all
If Asc("C") = Asc("c")
Debug "hooray for rsts"
Else
Debug "cheers"
EndIf
I really like the suggested C dump of PureBasiC code.
-Steve
As I said - spelling no, capitalization yes
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If ucase("PureBasic") = Ucase("PurebasiC") and lcase("PureBasic") = lcase("PurebasiC")
Debug "hooray for rsts"
Else
Debug "cheers"
EndIf
cheers
Re: Pure "Basic" holding back potential customers?
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:10 am
by Rook Zimbabwe
even I think this is just far too silly!

Re: Pure "Basic" holding back potential customers?
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:23 pm
by jamba
you guys are silly...
I like Basic just fine. C most certainly has it's place, and I still use it sometimes, but I MUCH prefer Basic.
While being new to PureBasic, I am finding I would rather use it than the other basics I have messed around with (VB6 which I used predominantly in the past, VB.NET , Mono and Gambas, as they are similar also).
PureBasic is faster, and I just really like the layout and how everything works. Not to mention the community here is top shelf
any Basic dialect carries a kind of stigmata, but that's just how it goes. I don't feel bad about it!
(I do feel bad for anyone who uses C !)
Re: Pure "Basic" holding back potential customers?
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:28 pm
by Seymour Clufley
You should google "stigmata".
Re: Pure "Basic" holding back potential customers?
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:47 pm
by Kaeru Gaman
it's ok, he just should use the singular "
stigma" if he doesn't mean the clerical term...
Re: Pure "Basic" holding back potential customers?
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:16 pm
by Thorium
jamba wrote:I do feel bad for anyone who uses C !
Finaly someone feels bad about me. I must use C on iPhone and i hate it, i realy do. It's ugly and bloated.
All those brackets and semicolon's. Its if they are to lazy to write a good parser. It's just annoying and would be not necessary as you can see in no basic you have to deal with that much brackets. And never forget one or you get tons of error messages because it's corrupting all the following commands. XCode isn't smart enough to just show you the first syntax error that causes the problem.
Realy the more i use it, the more i hate it and the more i feel that the devs of C and XCode are just lazy b...
Just call a Basic... Basic.
Re: Pure "Basic" holding back potential customers?
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:53 pm
by milan1612
@Thorium
C may have some drawbacks like allowing you to shoot yourself in the foot way
too easy or its tedious string handling - but if C has one positive aspect
(aside from being portable to whatever architecture out there), then that
it's
not bloated
Besides, one gets used to all the brackets and semicolons pretty fast...
Re: Pure "Basic" holding back potential customers?
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:55 pm
by the.weavster
Thorium wrote:Finaly someone feels bad about me. I must use C on iPhone and i hate it, i realy do.
I don't know if it's any help to you but you can program the iPhone with Lua:
http://developer.anscamobile.com/ (and no it doesn't need to be jailbroken).
I don't know how good or complete it is I just found it by accident when researching Lua but it claims to have some apps in the app store already.
Re: Pure "Basic" holding back potential customers?
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:07 pm
by Thorium
milan1612 wrote:then that
it's
not bloated
I mean the source code gets bloated not the resulting executable. For example every API introduces it's own datatypes which are just the basic c datatypes with other names. That does not make any sense to me and just makes the source look more complicated than it is. For example on OpenGL you use "GLFloat" for floats but it's just the same as "float" you can just write "float" instead of "GLFloat". Maybe that should improve readability but it just don't. And there are tons of such things.
Re: Pure "Basic" holding back potential customers?
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:36 am
by StPaul
I think yes and no. Granted some do see "Basic" as inherently slow etc... language.
But, other people see Basic as a language with the readability that appeals to many folks who program ocassionally. I knew I was looking for some form of basic and that is how I found PB. But I was amazed when learned more about it.
It would seem the real issue is to create greater awareness, and not just in the game programming world. This product is neat. And the user community is very positive.