Gas Prices RANT!!!!

[mrjiles]

What happened to those compressed air powered cars I saw on Nat Geo? If they brought them over, I would buy one. Not because I'm the greenest person in the world - I just like to be as self-sufficient as possible.

[Berikco]

I follow this air car from Guy Négre for almost 10 years now.
Couple of months ago, a company in Belgium was in the news that had acquired the license to produce them for the Belgian market.
Hope to buy one in 2009.....

[utopiomania]

Check out the IPCC FAQ from their 2007 report (= RTFM) if you doubt global warming, then post here and tell us burning fuel and carrying on as
we do doesn't matter, and I will kindly tell you that you will end up with a cake in your face at the end of the day.

Or that you should simply try and get an education, or shut up, or whatever suits you best.

[thefool]

I got no idea why people doubt it. Of course there are MORE than just our usage of burning fuel..

btw utopi: most people here did not say they disbelieve in the global warming, they are just disagreeing on the causes!

[the.weavster]

You've got to compress the air somehow and compressed air is not a very inefficient way of storing energy, the energy density of petrol is over ten times that of compressed air. If you're going to generate electricity from a power station, transfer it across the national grid (inefficient), then run a compressor to compress the air (which usually have an efficiency of <=20%) it doesn't seem like a very green option at all, apart from the fact it's easier to monitor pollution at one power plant rather than x number of cars.

Maybe turbines could be designed that compress the air directly rather than generate electricity but then you're talking about a lot of infrastructure.

As for his claim you could fill up in 3 minutes, compressing the air that fast would generate a LOT of heat. Then as the car runs and the air decompresses you have the opposite problem - it's going to get extremely cold.

[Kaeru Gaman]

... if you doubt global warming

btw utopi: most people here did not say they disbelieve in the global warming, they are just disagreeing on the causes!

exactly.
and further: I do not doubt that there are factors caused by humans

there are other causes, too, like e.g. the ozon problem,
the evaporation from the oceans what is also a self supporting circle...

a really significant cause only few want to see is airtraffic.
the contrails support a really significant greenhouse effect.

I'm just getting sick about the CO²-topic.
everybody is shouting CO² these days, bit in the end it's just another trick to blind you again.

do you use cleenex (I mean handkerchiefs made of paper)?
are you mad? do you know how much trees are killed for paper?
it far enough we use paper to whipe our asses, we should not additionally use it to clean our noses.

for centuries women used cloth to swaddle their babies.
since the 20st century we use f*king paper and ruin our forest even faster.

anyhow, why do we use paper from trees, why don't we grow enough hemp?

wood is made for making shelves to cut vegetables on, you should use wood, not plastics.

and there are thousands other problems, like sugar from beets,
displacement of development aid, not enough FairTrade etc, etc...

but no, we must care about CO²! it's so mofo more urgent!

...it's a hoax, since we just do not know if it is a significant factor at all.

[pdwyer]

I got no idea why people doubt it. Of course there are MORE than just our usage of burning fuel..

btw utopi: most people here did not say they disbelieve in the global warming, they are just disagreeing on the causes!

Clearly you have never talked to member of the US Christian Right. If the Earth is only 6000 years old then one can hardly believe in ice ages or geological evidence of warming from the distant past.

The Lord works in mysterious ways

(Hopefully this doesn't breach the rules on religious flaming in the off topic section)

[thefool]

not flaming, just a fact: those people are on the lowest place on my intelligent-people list.

do you use cleenex (I mean handkerchiefs made of paper)?
are you mad? do you know how much trees are killed for paper?
it far enough we use paper to whipe our asses, we should not additionally use it to clean our noses.

Save the tree's burn the books! where is the nearest library? (ever played postal 2?)

i must admit it, i buy normal books instead of e-books. But thats a very GOOD usage of the paper. What else do you want to wipe your nose in? Cokaine?

[Baldrick]

What else do you want to wipe your nose in? Cokaine?

Thought that was pretty obvious. ----> Hemp ( Not be be confused with chopping it up, shoving it in a bong & smoking it....

[thefool]

Ah

so you're smoking the hankerchief tonight? Yeah.

[Baldrick]

so you're smoking the hankerchief tonight?

Recycling, waste not want not. It's the green thing to do isn't it... ( Pun intended )

[thefool]

its as green the hippies!

[mrjiles]

@the.weavster: That's what they brought up on the show... turbines that compress air. They also stated that you could "plug in" at home for around $3 US - about 100 miles of travel. The car has a built in compressor for this.

I would stick a solar panel on the car that way it can recharge when it's sunny!

[thefool]

based on his avatar i think mr jiles would like to join us, baldric

[Baldrick]

based on his avatar i think mr jiles would like to join us, baldric

Get Fred to get PB's 3D engine finished, then get a good session going.
Bet there would be some really interesting Demo's come out of that...