Wishlist for PureBasic v4.xx - Overview

[akee]

Does anyone know how long more before the PB4 beta would be released?

[Psychophanta]

I guess:
Fred's proud doesn't allow a 4.0 with bugs.
That's why it is taking longer.

[Fred]

We do our best. Actually the compiler and libraries are now fully finished, we are working on the IDE and the Debugger.

[akee]

Great! Yippee!

[Fable Fox]

I just purchased Pure Basic yesterday, this is a _goo_ news woohoo 4.0

[akee]

Welcome Fable. I'm waiting patiently... (bites nails)

[Pinhead]

Hi,
my wish is a FreeBSD version of Purebasic!

[Michael Vogel]

Just a list of some beta observations (and wishes to think about changing some things, maybe;)...

Directory structure
----------------------
(I'd like to have everything compact;)
- why Tools.prefs and Template.prefs could not be included in the PureBasic.prefs? Wouldn't it be eniugh to have a [Tools] and a [Template] section inside the master file?
- the "Debugger" directory just includes one file, I would move it to the "Compilers" directory
- there are two WindowsUnicode.res files, is it possible to eliminate the "Residents\Unicode" directory?
- optional: I would expect, that everyone kills non-spoken language files from the "Catalogs" directory, so it will be nearly empty - maybe it can me "merged" with the "Help" directory content to a single directory...
- and: what about changing the subdirectories in "Examples"? I would put one "Archive" directory inside, which contains all sources not have been updated to PB4 syntax. All working examples should be in divided in categories, like "Graphics" (Drawing, Sprite, 3D), "In&Out" (File, Keyboard, etc.), "Maths", "Network", "Windows" (API, Dialog, DLL, Font, Windows, etc.), "Tools", "Tutorial" and "Extras", where all other stuff, like OnError and Advanced Things could be placed...
this would help to understand PB4 faster, especially for newcomers like me: I do not want to learn V3.94 now and some weeks later V4 again!


Editor (IDE):
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- please try to implement an auto ident mode, some "cool" editors even show dotted lines within If/Endif constructs
- as I work on a small notebook (800x600), there's not much space for the tools, like the "Procedure browser". So I use the auto hide function, which works fine. But why there is no easy possibility to access to these tools by keyboard? I can activate the tool by ALt-something, but the cursor remains in the source window...
- what about a possibility to define a second shortcut for some functions? I would like to use alt-q for folding, but would like to keep F4 also for "compatibility"
- other stuff, i liked on the gfa-editor, like...
- i think, the auto complete function is not very efficient (pops up slowly), a dictionary which translates some often used words automatically, when a space is pressed after a dictionary word (proc->Procedure, procr->ProcedureReturn, etc.), would be an alternative (otherwise I have to do this with Autohotkey;)
- the "External Help" entry in the popu up menu is not justified correctly
- I'd like to be able to create a "own" color setting which can be named (in GFA-Style;)
- maybe it's here, I didn't find it: a shortcut to delete a line?! (nice would also be a shortcut which cuts the text from the cursor position to the end of the line into the clipboard)

Maths:
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Good to know, ".d" has standard quality (compared to GFA, etc.), but was is ".f"? For what reason should this type be used? (just a rhetoric question)

a.d=1.0000001
For i=1 To 26
a=a*a
Next i
Debug(a-821)


Conditions:
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Once again, something I liked - GFA-Basic allowed to use conditions within expressions, like this...

FUNCTION onoff$(n&)
// Print "Value is set to"@onoff$(1) prints out "Value is set to on"
RETURN MID$(" off on",-PRED(SHL(n& <> 0,2)),4)
ENDFUNC


Loops:
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PureBasic seems to do the standard program (while/wend, repeat/until), I miss the genius do/loop thing from GFA-Basic. Why? Have a look:

error=0
i=0
:
do while i<9
i++
:
if blabla then error=9
:
loop until error


So, that's all for the moment,
Michael

[blueznl]

gfa:

do while ... loop
do ... loop until

pure:

while ... wend
repeat ... until

[Psychophanta]

gfa:
do while ... loop
do ... loop until

I requested for that loving feature for PB years ago. When this forum didn't exist.

[Hatonastick]

An updated help file as I'm not a real programmer - I employ an infinite number of monkeys, and I think maybe a couple of them can read.

[thefool]

Good to know, ".d" has standard quality (compared to GFA, etc.), but was is ".f"? For what reason should this type be used? (just a rhetoric question)

.f is a float. A double is double (2x) floats afaik.
Now what if you do not NEED to have so many decimals? Then you use a smaller variable.
Thats also why you have words and bytes.. Or at least one of the reasons.

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Debug SizeOf(float)   ;<- FLOAT.
Debug SizeOf(double)  ;<- DOUBLE.

Debug SizeOf(word)    ;<- WORD.
Debug SizeOf(long)    ;<- LONG.

[nco2k]

man, pure basic <> gfa basic, blitz basic and everything else. i hate wishes for changing the own pure basic design/style. nothing personal.

c ya,
nco2k

[blueznl]

nco you're right, but there is nothing wrong with... learning from another language (well, borrowing, stealing, copying, you decide on the wording )

[Michael Vogel]

gfa:

do while ... loop
do ... loop until

pure:

while ... wend
repeat ... until

Hi.

no, no - i donot mean "do while ... loop" ... and a second ... "do ... loop until" - but "do while ... loop until" !