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Re: Stores simple states in exe
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 12:50 pm
by Mijikai
walbus wrote:Well, my personal opinion is that PB already has enough problems with malware and you shouldn't describe or publish these approaches here
For KCC's application, I also consider it the worst of all conceivable solutions
, sorry
The only thing that could be abused here is how to execute a remote buffer but even that
has nothing to do with malware by itself.
Also i dont get why ppl whine about malware every sophisticated language has this problem.
And there are solutions that at least every commercial developer should know.
Shellcode is highly interesting and educational as u have to learn and explore
the assembly language

Re: Stores simple states in exe
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 12:55 pm
by walbus
I stick with my statement, we already had people here who were very interested in various things
For KCC's purpose I think this approach is completely wrong
I don't think he's going to start with assembler either
,sorry
http://www.purebasic.fr/english/search. ... 9&sr=posts
Re: Stores simple states in exe
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:04 pm
by Kwai chang caine
You have probably right, but i'm not sure talking about a function is make publicity for a bad utility.
Each thing in the world, can be positive or negative, even a gun can give to you food and save your life and your familly, or do bad thing
The hackers or malicious persons not need to this forum for learning bad things.
There is several site for do this, and surely software already terminate for do worst.
And it's when even important to know all the functions possible to do with a language.
Furthermore, i don't think microsoft create PowerShell for create virus, or hacking itself.
PowerShell have surely more usefull functions, than pirate function no ???
If we think always virus, we can stop immediately to programming PB, because even with a simple loop and deletefile function, me, the worst programmer of the world, i can create a nice virus, who delete all the file of a DD
This is my advice, obviously, each person think like he want

But ignore a problem, hiding our head in the underground is not the better behaviour for knowing the danger of bad programming

Re: Stores simple states in exe
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:08 pm
by walbus
And what is the hex dump up to show him or give him? Nothing, absolutely nothing !
The problem is, you shouldn't show people how to do such things with PB, read the thread above, then you know what I mean
Re: Stores simple states in exe
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:10 pm
by Kwai chang caine
Excuse me, i have not understand your sentence, in programming like in english, i'm not enough strong

Re: Stores simple states in exe
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:10 pm
by Mijikai
walbus wrote:And what is the witch dump up to show him or give him? Nothing, absolutely nothing !
I have no idea what the above sentence is supposed to mean - sorry.
Re: Stores simple states in exe
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:13 pm
by walbus
I have corrected it, DeepL is also not always perfect at translating
He has HEX interpreted as Witch, aber das weißt du ja als Deutsche, das Witch eine Hexe ist, aber HEX keine Hexe...
Re: Stores simple states in exe
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:16 pm
by Mijikai
walbus wrote:...
The problem is, you shouldn't show people how to do such things with PB, read the thread above, then you know what I mean
U know that the sole purpose of this forum is to share knowledge and ideas ?
Re: Stores simple states in exe
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:20 pm
by walbus
Yeah, but you don't have to share everything you know
I don't do that either, or there'd be another fight, I guess

Re: Stores simple states in exe
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:31 pm
by Mijikai
walbus wrote:Yeah, but you don't have to share everything you know
I don't do that either, or there'd be another fight, I guess

Nice to imply that this is all i know...
No society can thrive if theres no constant exchange of knowledge and ideas.
Re: Stores simple states in exe
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:35 pm
by Kwai chang caine
And don't worry, FRED since 20 years is enough big for see if a member is a malicious person, or for see if a code is dangerous for his site

Don't forget MIJIKAI not give the full code, for justly the security, that proof his good behaviour

Re: Stores simple states in exe
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:40 pm
by Mijikai
walbus wrote:And what is the hex dump up to show him or give him? Nothing, absolutely nothing !
...
Well to understand those opcodes u need to know basic assembly.
The post has all information u need to reconstruct and understand how it works.
So i dont really get ur point.
Re: Stores simple states in exe
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:41 pm
by CELTIC88
@kcc +1,
If You need a shellcode, tell me ?
Re: Stores simple states in exe
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:49 pm
by Kwai chang caine
Thanks a lot CELTIC, you are an angel
First ...now MIJIKAI have the kindness to say to me that can be a soluion of my problem, i need to understand what is it, and the power of it before ask something about it

Re: Stores simple states in exe
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:47 pm
by walbus
Well, I don't know if this Guy was kicked.
At some point he wasn't here anymore, because his intentions were more than obvious and he more and more hardly received any information.
But it took him a long time to leave for good
Nevertheless, he has received enough information to cause considerable damage