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Re: PureBasic or Q7Basic?
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:25 pm
by karmacomposer
ultralazor wrote:I will say, ogre is the only real drawback, because of the model formats and the lack of modern tools for them. There is one level tool for ogre formats, and it's nightmarish bad.. might as well say nothing for rigging and animation, topology has to be worked for mesh converters..
defininty needs better format support, ARM w8 and linux support would be cool, maybe android and ios .app compiling via sdk in roadmap
EDIT: I don't think most people here realize how close to abandonware PB is.. The few developers all have jobs and lives which historically speaking, always leads to abandonment of demanding products and projects.. It's proprietary too, so if they don't work nothing get done..
How can I believe that PureBasic is nearly dying when I see the devs working constantly on this software with fairly recent updates. Also, I have seen (and downloaded) wrappers for the Irrlicht engine for PureBasic and that is a very good engine.
Mike
Re: PureBasic or Q7Basic?
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:07 pm
by Tenaja
ultralazor wrote:EDIT: I don't think most people here realize how close to abandonware PB is.. The few developers all have jobs and lives which historically speaking, always leads to abandonment of demanding products and projects.. It's proprietary too, so if they don't work nothing get done..
Let's see...45 posts per day for four days straight, and most of those posts are announcements of a beta bugfix.
1. You are ignorant about the status of the developers.
2. You are ignorant about the work they are doing,
currently.
Sure, the formula often ends in abandonment, but Fred has promised to open-source the compiler before it gets abandoned. There is no reason to disbelieve him, since he has o/s'd one version already.
Re: PureBasic or Q7Basic?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:16 am
by ultralazor
Tenaja wrote:ultralazor wrote:EDIT: I don't think most people here realize how close to abandonware PB is.. The few developers all have jobs and lives which historically speaking, always leads to abandonment of demanding products and projects.. It's proprietary too, so if they don't work nothing get done..
Let's see...45 posts per day for four days straight, and most of those posts are announcements of a beta bugfix.
1. You are ignorant about the status of the developers.
2. You are ignorant about the work they are doing,
currently.
Sure, the formula often ends in abandonment, but Fred has promised to open-source the compiler before it gets abandoned. There is no reason to disbelieve him, since he has o/s'd one version already.
right.. 2 developers.. 1 working for the last ~2 years who also has a full time job. I'm not gonna argue on it though cause it's pretty obvious and I'll only get redundant poorly thought out pseudo-contradictions till the thread gets scrapped..
Re: PureBasic or Q7Basic?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:03 am
by Fred
ultralazor wrote:right.. 2 developers.. 1 working for the last ~2 years who also has a full time job. I'm not gonna argue on it though cause it's pretty obvious and I'll only get redundant poorly thought out pseudo-contradictions till the thread gets scrapped..
PureBasic is here for more than a decade, which is a long long time for a software and it will continue. I'm now working at full time on PureBasic and I think everyone out of here can see the results. So please post your trolls somewhere else.
Re: PureBasic or Q7Basic?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:42 am
by electrochrisso
Fred wrote:ultralazor wrote:right.. 2 developers.. 1 working for the last ~2 years who also has a full time job. I'm not gonna argue on it though cause it's pretty obvious and I'll only get redundant poorly thought out pseudo-contradictions till the thread gets scrapped..
PureBasic is here for more than a decade, which is a long long time for a software and it will continue. I'm now working at full time on PureBasic and I think everyone out of here can see the results. So please post your trolls somewhere else.
Too right Fred, these people are just being a bit too silly, annoying even.
Re: PureBasic or Q7Basic?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:43 am
by Polo
Especially considering what Fred just did on OSX - brilliant work!
Re: PureBasic or Q7Basic?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:03 pm
by srod
Polo wrote:Especially considering what Fred just did on OSX...
Well I hope he cleaned it up...
Fred and Timo are not human. No way can 2 guys do so much work. They must be bots; FredBot and TimoBot.
That's my theory anyhow.
Re: PureBasic or Q7Basic?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:19 pm
by ultralazor
I'm a troll?
I'm now a bigger fan of fantasia software, and all the stuff they and their affiliates release/sale in the future.
EDIT:lulz
Re: PureBasic or Q7Basic?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:31 pm
by PMV
Since you are working fulltime on PureBasic, you have too much free-time Fred!
You shouldn't read and answer annoying threads like this.
Just work on the next update.
Re: PureBasic or Q7Basic?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:33 pm
by Fred
Re: PureBasic or Q7Basic?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:40 pm
by karmacomposer
Fred wrote:ultralazor wrote:right.. 2 developers.. 1 working for the last ~2 years who also has a full time job. I'm not gonna argue on it though cause it's pretty obvious and I'll only get redundant poorly thought out pseudo-contradictions till the thread gets scrapped..
PureBasic is here for more than a decade, which is a long long time for a software and it will continue. I'm now working at full time on PureBasic and I think everyone out of here can see the results. So please post your trolls somewhere else.
Well said. Well done. I look forward to all of your hard work.
Mike
Re: PureBasic or Q7Basic?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:20 pm
by ultralazor
If you have alternative opinions based on nuances like facts(note how everything I said is paraphrased from the front page of the blog..), you're a "troll".. how convenient
It's no wonder there are over 20 bugs the two devs admittedly don't have the skills to fix.. This IS just a FASM generator and ~30% of the IDE functionality is even bugged..
EDIT: you can ban be now so I can stop correcting the half-talents on your forums and pointing out your stupidity..
Re: PureBasic or Q7Basic?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:51 pm
by srod
30% !!!
I don't know which IDE you are using; but it is not the same one I am?
Re: PureBasic or Q7Basic?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:11 pm
by ts-soft
since 40 years, i am using this one:
No bug at all
Re: PureBasic or Q7Basic?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:45 pm
by skywalk
ts-soft's point should be obvious.
You can choose the level of whiz-bang IDE you like.
From Notepad to PB-IDE to NotePad++.
I use all of these, but the PB-IDE is way more efficient for pure coding.
For massive or redundant editing, I have to head to NotePad++ or write PB code that re-writes my code.
Given the passage of time I'm sure more IDE enhancements will come or even plug-ins that would enable us to integrate more automation into the PB-IDE.