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Seymour Clufley wrote:Where has Fred promised amazing news?
The blog just says "maybe some big surprises".

Maybe you think it's too far fetched, but for me

"maybe some big surprises == promised amazing news"

well if he's gone to the trouble of supporting cocoa maybe he's bit the bullet and had a go at targeting llvm

I'm getting confused... would that mean mobile phone apps, or Native Client?

thommy.oster wrote:PureBasic is a very good language for absolute beginners in my opinion and it is a shame, that it is not Open Source.

That should be spelled Open Sores. Witness the 4057 and climbing varieties of Linux and the mish mash Google has created by making Android open sores.

dhouston wrote:

thommy.oster wrote:PureBasic is a very good language for absolute beginners in my opinion and it is a shame, that it is not Open Source.

That should be spelled Open Sores.

Seymour Clufley wrote:

well if he's gone to the trouble of supporting cocoa maybe he's bit the bullet and had a go at targeting llvm

I'm getting confused... would that mean mobile phone apps, or Native Client?

I expect it'll just be the cocoa api, but it would be great if we had an open sores llvm compiler project

I'm not on Mac, so don't know anything about Cocoa.

But can you remind me what the benefits of compiling to LLVM would be?

Initially more optimal assembly, cross compile across the desktop platforms and also target arm by using the targets native c libraries
On mac if you stuck to the cocoa framework you could probably create apps for iphone.

dhouston wrote:That should be spelled Open Sores. Witness the 4057 and climbing varieties of Linux...

I seem to remember you claiming Linux had been dealt a mortal blow by a patent court ruling against Google in Hicksville USA, yet here you are yonks later bemoaning the fact desktop Linux is now so popular that thousands upon thousands of enthusiasts put together their own distro. Debian live has made that staggeringly easy to do, even I've had a go at making my own distro.

Of course the core components don't differ very much, mainly the differences tend to be cosmetic and which packages and codecs are installed by default. That being said the vast majority of Linux users will still actually be using one of the main distros (Mint, *buntu, Fedora) but hey, it clearly suits your politics to pretend this stuff is a big deal.

dhouston wrote:...and the mish mash Google has created by making Android open sores.

Let's play FUD Vs Facts shall we? http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/a ... _says.html

You probably wont like this either: http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/1231 ... droid.html

Renault will be including built-in Android running touchscreens in some of their new cars, they're even going to provide an api that offers app developers the ability to read telemetry from the car. Quality open source projects can evolve along all sorts of interesting paths.

aston wrote:I read once on one topic that Fred don't agree if you wrapp purebasic functions in
your own programming language(read interpreter).
But he also think that is ok when he wrapp C or C++ functions developing pure basic compiler
if is written in C/C++ (i guess)

There is no Microsoft license that prevents the wrapping of Windows API functions for developing a language, so Fred is fully entitled to do so. He is also entitled to make his own licensing rules for his said language.

Yes, I expected this answer.
But is little bit hypocritical.
To be clear, I'm not interested in Pure Basic as open
source product.
By the way 3 script interpreter are written in Pure Basic.
VMSCript, DLib and Paladium.
which indicates that the Pure Basic is very good and powerful enough for this type of program.......

aston wrote: By the way 3 script interpreter are written in Pure Basic.
VMSCript, DLib and Paladium.

and PureGolo since 08/2005 ! (type of Logo interpreter)
look here :
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=16221&hilit=puregolo

Very good even im not Logo fan
And you have very nice looking site...

For what it's worth, I think it's important to have a strong leadership team, one who is able to answer a question with the word 'no.'

the.weavster wrote:I seem to remember you claiming Linux had been dealt a mortal blow by a patent court ruling against Google in Hicksville USA...

In 2009 Texas (or Hicksville as you call it) had the 14th largest economy in the world. The UK was ranked 6th in 2010 but that was only 30% greater in GDP than Texas the previous year. Since 2009, Texas has continued to grow while the UK has stagnated. Hicksville, indeed.

• http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2 ... owth_n.htm
  http://econpost.com/texaseconomy/texas- ... king-world
  http://econpost.com/worldeconomy/world-economy-ranking

Is innumerancy a common problem amongst your countrymen or are you atypical in that regard?

Last I looked, Windows had 90% of desktops and OSX had 9%. That leaves only 1% to be divided between all the rest.

And, while Mexico fell from 10th largest to 11th largest in 2009, according to Katty Kay, (reporting from Mexico City on BBC World News USA yesterday) they are expected to be one of the top 5 (ahead of the UK) within a decade or so - you just might need to reconsider just where Hicksville is.

Renault will be including built-in Android running touchscreens in some of their new cars

Renault still makes cars? I thought they died back in the 70s. Wow!!

By the way 3 script interpreter are written in Pure Basic.
VMSCript, DLib and Paladium.
which indicates that the Pure Basic is very good and powerful enough for this type of program.......

You have left out a couple of others.