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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:01 pm
by Joakim Christiansen
Num3 wrote:My personal theory...

Time does not exist, it's a concept...
That's what Einstein really meant with 'time is relative'...
I also do agree with this, time may exist only in our heads.

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:06 pm
by thefool
Psychophanta wrote: http://www.borisvolfson.com/spaceship.html <- is nice to see quickly the idea because it show spacetime can be in higher or lower "pressure".

I insist this is not a theory, but a fact.
A thing you reminded me off because you talk about spacetime:

The idea of moving in "folded"/"bended" time (take time as a straight line, if you fold it 10 times and still moves in the same direction you would eventually end in the future, as you move faster than existing time. Time on earth will be the same.). At least this is what i get out of it. It is a lot like the other thing i said with making time go slow for one man while the other time is slow, this is nearly the opposite. Time go slow for all others than yourself. Opposite, yet same result!

Correct me if im talking complete rubbish, remember i am only 19 :)

The spaceship idea is interesting. I don't have much time but looking at it, i think it looks a bit like the folded-time idea, that you travel through areas with more time in less time that there is because you travel in a special direction.

Re: Time travlling

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:21 pm
by ricardo
PB wrote: But let's say a vehicle is invented that moves twice the speed of light. If I get
in it, and travel in it for a year, I won't have aged a year? Yeah, right. :lol:
Nop.

When you stop your trip, there will be a year passed for you, but something like 70 years for the people that dont travel with you.

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:25 pm
by ricardo
PB wrote:> PB: you just said that Carl Sagan and Albert Einstein were stupid?

No I didn't: I said they haven't provided any proof yet, that's all.
Its proved.

Not with people but with atomic clocks.

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:26 pm
by ricardo
The idea of adding more speed and then go to the past is not a scientific idea, is just scifi.

Past has nothing to do with this idea of the speed of light.

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:30 pm
by thefool
ricardo wrote:The idea of adding more speed and then go to the past is not a scientific idea, is just scifi.

Past has nothing to do with this idea of the speed of light.
THAT is complete RUBBISH!
This is all we talk about. I bet even einstein believed that

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:41 pm
by ricardo
thefool wrote:
ricardo wrote:The idea of adding more speed and then go to the past is not a scientific idea, is just scifi.

Past has nothing to do with this idea of the speed of light.
THAT is complete RUBBISH!
This is all we talk about. I bet even einstein believed that
Nop.

The idea that thraveling at speed of light makes the times moves slower has nothing to do with the idea of traveling in time. Its NOT traveling to the future and of course no connection with traveling into past.

Re: Time travlling

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:46 pm
by Kaeru Gaman
ricardo wrote:
PB wrote: But let's say a vehicle is invented that moves twice the speed of light. If I get
in it, and travel in it for a year, I won't have aged a year? Yeah, right. :lol:
Nop.

When you stop your trip, there will be a year passed for you, but something like 70 years for the people that dont travel with you.
completely wrong!

this what you describe would happen if you travel in a vessel at e.g. 99.2% lightspeed!

it's time-dilatation, and it's a proven effect!

traveling in a vessel with twice lightspeed would make you travel back in time....
...despite that you can't because you would have negative mass when traveling faster than light.

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:51 pm
by thefool
Listen to Kaeru. Time has something to do with light, at least the relative time.

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:56 pm
by Num3
Time is conceptual... It's not a law !

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:22 pm
by Joakim Christiansen
Btw, I have written code for a time machine in PureBasic. But I wont share it!

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:27 pm
by SFSxOI
Joakim Christiansen wrote:Btw, I have written code for a time machine in PureBasic. But I wont share it!
Impossible! PureBasic doesn't evaluate boolean expressions! ;)

That is unless you have PureBasic.NET!

:)

You want to time travel? just piss your wife off, she will never let you forget the past. :)

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:18 pm
by Derek
thefool wrote:Listen to Kaeru. Time has something to do with light, at least the relative time.
So when I go to bed at night and turn out the light, time stops.

That explains why when I get up in the morning it seems like only a couple of minutes have gone by and why I feel knackered all day. :P

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:24 pm
by thefool
Derek wrote:
thefool wrote:Listen to Kaeru. Time has something to do with light, at least the relative time.
So when I go to bed at night and turn out the light, time stops.
Basically yes! Its amazing isnt it?
This is the reason that if you sit and play computer all night long, you won't realize how long time you have been sitting there (or actually how SHORT time as its dark, at least outside for the rest of the world) until the break of dawn.

So be aware kids, if you don't turn off the light when you sleep, you will age twice as fast as everyone else!

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:42 pm
by Num3
The faster an object is accelarated, more the same mass get's shrunk and more gravity it creates.

That 'bends' our known rules for time, so weird stuff happens like motion without movement... Because you cannot 'time' movement at these high speeds, but you do move in space.

Sure, faster than light speed is possible, but we cannot perseive it yet.
We cannot see what we don't understand !


It's like the SETI project...
Just imagine every intelligent entity in the galaxy has one of those...
Sure, everyone is listening, but what about transmiting???

Only by pure luck some alien tv show will reach us...