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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 2:44 am
by freak
Wow, much response :)

First, let me say that i am away from the development computer for the
whole weekend, so do not be alarmed when you get no immediate response
from me about postet bug reports.
Also do not worry if the IDE/debugger might seem to be very buggy right now.
Keep in mind that this is a brand new, and very big program, that just needs testing.
(Thats why it is called a beta release ;))

So please, post all bugs you find, and i promise to get on them as soon as i have the time.

I'll try to answer some of the posted questions:

@J. Baker:
I think what you are talking about is the error log window at the bottom.
This is a setting that can be turned on/off for each source separately in the menu.
In the Preferences, you can change the default setting for newly created sources,
so turn it off there, if you want it to be gone permanently.

@fsw:
for disabling the output-window, see above. For the explorer/procedures,
See Preferences -> Toolspanel
If you make the list of displayed tools empty, the sidepanel will not be displayed.
(You can still access all tools from the Tools menu, which will open them in a separate window)

btw, if you prefere the old IDE, it is still compatible to the compiler.
I do not know if we can maintain this compatibility with future updates, but for now it works.

@GedB:

> The new IDE has a little way to go to catch up with jaPBe. Having to
> press ctrl-space is a nuisance, the jaPBe autocompletion is always there.

Always have a good look at the preferences.. many features are there, but off by default ;)
I personally find that auto-popup thing quite annoying :D

About your requests: i will see what can be done.

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:53 am
by J. Baker
freak wrote:@J. Baker:
I think what you are talking about is the error log window at the bottom.
This is a setting that can be turned on/off for each source separately in the menu.
In the Preferences, you can change the default setting for newly created sources,
so turn it off there, if you want it to be gone permanently.
1.) Ok, got that fixed. Thanks freak!

2.) Got rid of the folding.

3.) How do I get rid of that gap now where the folding usually is? Because now there's too much of a gap and when I back space, I go to far and have to hit enter.

Sorry to complain but I just want to code, I don't need all these features.

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:57 am
by Psychophanta
J. Baker wrote:Sorry to complain but I just want to code, I don't need all these features.
Same as me.
Freak, i congratule you for your efforts for this work, and I strongly want the editor evolution.
But should be good if new features options appear switched off by default, and respect the previous config after updating to new version, don't? :roll:
Just an idea :)

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:09 am
by Blade
@Notepad users that just want to code:
Give a chance to the new features, you could find it very useful ;)

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:56 am
by Psychophanta
Blade wrote:@Notepad users that just want to code:
Give a chance to the new features, you could find it very useful ;)
:lol:
Bahhh! no! i don't like notepad because can't choose custom backgroung color there :P

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:03 am
by J. Baker
Psychophanta wrote:
Blade wrote:@Notepad users that just want to code:
Give a chance to the new features, you could find it very useful ;)
:lol:
Bahhh! no! i don't like notepad because can't choose custom backgroung color there :P
LOL :lol:

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:14 am
by Blade
A "full of cool features" editor is a must even for promotional purpose.
I know of people that after a (too) quick look at the PB demo, simply uninstalled it.

The first time you launch Macromedia Flash, you have three options (if my memory don't fail):
- Programmers
- Designers
- Graphicians
It simply sets many of the options to suit your choice, you can still edit the options as usual.

PB should do the same:
- Enhanced editor
- I just want to code(TM)

In this way the casual user will select the first option, and have a proper look.

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:32 am
by Polo
Hi !
I want to thanks Fred another time for the debugger, because I've just tested it a lot, and I can say it's amazing !! Even if it's a little bit slow, it has detected every errors that made my app crash in the normal mode !!! And it's showing in which line of which file the error is, just amazing !!

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:42 am
by Justin
A 18000 loc app seems to work fine with this version but uses very few pb libs, apparently there aren't major changes or bugs in the pb core

How can we test resources?, there aren't docs. i want to use them from an external editor

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 2:00 pm
by GedB
Freak,

I'll check out the preferences. Thanks.

Can't wait for the final, stable, release :D

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 2:30 pm
by traumatic
Wow, I immediately fell in love with the new debugger, you must have
been reading my thoughts! ;)

Thank you! :D


Small bug:
When disabling breakpoints, the editor display doesn't get refreshed, leaving
the current source by selecting another tab and going back or scrolling
the breakpoint out of view however shows the update.

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:25 pm
by utopiomania
I've just checked out the new IDE, and managed to configure it to look and work more or less
like 3.93 did, but I'm not able to get rid of that window below my code though.

'Prefs/Editor/Default settings for new files/show error log' is unchecked. shouldn't this
window go away then?

EDIT: Sorry for that, I got rid of it, after a reboot.

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:05 pm
by TerryHough
What happened to the context sensitive F1 help? I really like having it.

In the new IDE, pressing F1 with the cursor postioned at the beginning of
a keyword simply launches the Help CHM file rather than going directly to
the keyword's entry.

Have I missed a preference setting?

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:12 pm
by Berikco
Yes, seems one position wrong
the cursor must be in the keyword now, or at the end
a "-" missing somewhere? :)

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:10 pm
by Tranquil
I also have a performance problem if I use the new PB Beta @work. Old sources my take up to one minute till compile is complete.

I tried the new IDE and also jAPBE and both with the same results. Maybe the compiler itselfes is a little bit slower then a version before (due to a new debugger?)

Anyway, not a real problem.

Thanks for this fine release!!