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Re: SpiderBasic 1.00 beta 1

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:48 pm
by blueznl
Database related stuff is a must, yes. I've been eyeing Spider for some time now, as I'm investigating some web related stuff lately for a potential business idea.

Re: SpiderBasic 1.00 beta 1

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:26 am
by electrochrisso
Tranquil wrote:I will give it a try when it is possible to store datas in any way. (Database access, Cookies...)
At least for me this functions are a must have.

Looking forward to the next releases! Becoming interesting for sure!
It should be able to be integrated, but for security reasons associated with javascript on client side only cookies will be able to be used, and now their is privacy issues with storing cookies on client machines without permission in some countries.
The way to go would be to incorporate some PHP file handling and or mysql database commands into SpiderBasic, then all the data stuff is stored server side, probably some data collection privacy notice will still need to be posted on the website though.

Re: SpiderBasic 1.00 beta 1

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:13 am
by DoubleDutch
You need to do this in the UK.

Re: SpiderBasic 1.00 beta 1

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:43 am
by blueznl
I think in all EU countries you are allowed to use cookies but you have to inform the user. (I'm not sure if you have to ask his permission, many sites just inform the user and don't request a click.)

Re: SpiderBasic 1.00 beta 1

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:59 am
by electrochrisso
Yes, I have noticed that.

Re: SpiderBasic 1.00 beta 1

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:01 am
by blueznl
Fred, I typically see some use for Spiderbasic in certain applications (though, to be honest, the arrival of cheap Windows tablets may reduce the need for web-based apps, but that is a different story).

I'm looking at some some industrial applications, in which I need something fast and compact to gather and process data. Purebasic does a good job there, and I've made a few tests that were statisfactory. Especially when comparing the performance of my code on a simple laptop in comparison with some other supplier's server / client based scenario that required a 64 bit 12 GB 4 core server...

But, the one thing their application did very well was it was webbased, ie. it should work on any device (something pretty much destroyed by their requirement for specific browser add-ons, but alas)...

What I am trying to figure out is how you see Spiderbasic's future role. Here are some scenarios that I might be able to use it:

1. As (an independent) part of a regular website. I.e. an application has been completed and uploaded to some server. Games come to mind :-)

2. As a part of a web based solution, in which case the Spiderbasic application needs to connect to and communicate with server sided databases, and protection mechanisms become way more important.

3. As part of a combined solution, where the back-end is coded in Purebasic, and the web client is coded in Spiderbasic.

Scenario 3 is what I am interested in. Imagine a simple, complete, all including box that you simply leave at a customer, to which the client can connect with his / her browser. (The kind of application I'm looking at needs a discrete box and some code on site anyway, so entirely web based isn't going to work.)

Do you have any plans to 'aid' the (potential) developers a bit by, for example, providing them instructions on setting up a server and integrating Spiderbasic into the solution? (For example a preconfigured ISO image with some linux server software, ready to throw in a Spiderbasic app, would be great for starters.)

I'm just wondering where Spiderbasic is going next...

Re: SpiderBasic 1.00 beta 2

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:15 pm
by Fred
Beta 2 is out :)

Re: SpiderBasic 1.00 beta 2

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:09 am
by loulou2522
Hi Fred,
Shall DATABASE be implement in SpiderBasic. ?
Thanks

Re: SpiderBasic 1.00 beta 2

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:46 am
by J. Baker
I had no idea that there was a beta version for OS X now. The Examples folder seems to be missing the Data folder?

Re: SpiderBasic 1.00 beta 2

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:45 pm
by sartic
help is missing.
is there any tutorial to begin programming in sb?
is it possible to write sql clients in sb?

Re: SpiderBasic 1.00 beta 2

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:53 pm
by IdeasVacuum
Built-in Help is there in Beta 2.

Re: SpiderBasic 1.00 beta 2

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:35 pm
by sartic
examples are mising for me in manual (or they are not working for me)
proper manual is start for learning new language.

Re: SpiderBasic 1.00 beta 2

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:39 pm
by IdeasVacuum
Well of course a good manual is required - that has to come a bit later though since things are still very fluid - v1 Beta2, a very young product!

Re: SpiderBasic 1.00 beta 2

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:03 am
by skape
So am I correct in assuming that the "Color" parameter of DisplayTransparentSprite() is not implemented yet? I know tinting can be tricky in HTML5...

By the way, in my tests, the performance of SpiderBasic so far has been outstanding. For a simple test with bouncing, rotating, sprites the performance has... rivaled PB... :| (I very well could be doing something quite inefficient in PB.)

Re: SpiderBasic 1.00 is out !

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:06 am
by Fred
SpiderBasic 1.00 is available, check the first post of this topic for more info :)