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Re: PureBasic 5.20 beta 18 is out

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:20 am
by Fred
That's a good idea, but we would need then a way to login automatically on your private account to get the file and it sounds like a security headache. About being trusted OS X dev, I will see what can be done.

Re: PureBasic 5.20 beta 18 is out

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:28 am
by Danilo
Fred wrote:About being trusted OS X dev, I will see what can be done.
As a registered Mac OS X developer, you could also put PB (demo) into AppStore, if it can pass the checks - maybe reaching wider markets.

Re: PureBasic 5.20 beta 18 is out

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:03 pm
by yrreti
Danilo wrote:
For LTS it would help to install just the latest bug fixes, so only changed libs get downloaded and installed within the current installation directory.
I would rather prefer the full install approach as it is, because if your installed programing directory ever get's hosed somehow.
That fresh install will save the day. There would be no guarantee to be successful by just installing the latest fixes.
Just my take on this. :wink:

yrreti

Re: PureBasic 5.20 beta 18 is out

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:06 pm
by DK_PETER
+ 1 in support for what yrreti wrote. I prefer the full install approach as well.

Re: PureBasic 5.20 beta 18 is out

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:31 pm
by Danilo
yrreti wrote:Danilo wrote:
For LTS it would help to install just the latest bug fixes, so only changed libs get downloaded and installed within the current installation directory.
I would rather prefer the full install approach as it is, because if your installed programing directory ever get's hosed somehow.
That fresh install will save the day. There would be no guarantee to be successful by just installing the latest fixes.
Just my take on this. :wink:

yrreti
It could also download and install the full thing every time. Just automatic, like running temp/update.exe, quit IDE, download and install automatically, restart IDE.
Just installed Cinema 4D R15 today on MacOSX. On first startup it checked for updates and displayed a dialog. Then it automatically downloaded and installed the
updates and restarted the program while doing that.
It is very comfortable, so I thought it would be nice if PB had automatic updates. :)

AppStore programs on Windows/WindowsPhone/WindowsTablets and MacOSX are also automatically updated. I just love it, because no manual install is required anymore. Everything automated.

Re: PureBasic 5.20 beta 18 is out

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:49 pm
by ts-soft
But if you use only one IDE for more as one compiler (release, beta, lts ...) and for x86 and x64 you have a
problem with automatic :wink:
This require different dirs and so on.

Re: PureBasic 5.20 beta 19 is out

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:23 am
by Fred
Beta 19 is available for testing, thanks all !

Re: PureBasic 5.20 beta 19 is out

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:01 pm
by DoubleDutch
Thanks. Will test today. :)

Re: PureBasic 5.20 beta 18 is out

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:11 pm
by Poshu
Danilo wrote: It is very comfortable, so I thought it would be nice if PB had automatic updates. :)

AppStore programs on Windows/WindowsPhone/WindowsTablets and MacOSX are also automatically updated. I just love it, because no manual install is required anymore. Everything automated.
just nope. It's not a fart app for your smartphone but a development tool.

Re: PureBasic 5.20 beta 19 is out

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:55 pm
by yrreti
I'm beginning to see that this is the best beta upgrade idea yet since I started using PB years ago.
In this method a lot of bugs get addressed and fixed, and we don't have to wait until the next version
for the fix. And improvements get added easily. This is really great. Thanks team :!: :!: :!:

yrreti

Re: PureBasic 5.20 beta 19 is out

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:17 pm
by USCode
Fred wrote:Beta 19 is available for testing, thanks all !
Waiting for 5.20 Final to be released, I feel like the little kid in the back seat of the car on vacation ... "Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? ..." :wink:

Re: PureBasic 5.20 beta 19 is out

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:36 pm
by netmaestro
Fred wrote:It mainly fixes a nasty regression about FPU and x64.
Don't be so modest! You fixed the spingadget too.. :D

Re: PureBasic 5.20 beta 19 is out

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:13 pm
by Fred
:lol:

Re: PureBasic 5.20 beta 18 is out

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:52 pm
by Danilo
Poshu wrote:
Danilo wrote: It is very comfortable, so I thought it would be nice if PB had automatic updates. :)

AppStore programs on Windows/WindowsPhone/WindowsTablets and MacOSX are also automatically updated. I just love it, because no manual install is required anymore. Everything automated.
just nope. It's not a fart app for your smartphone but a development tool.
Development tools like Xcode, Visual Studio and Netbeans have the ability to check for and install updates+fixes automatically,
so I don't understand why you are referring to fart apps. You just don't want auto-update possibility for PureBasic, understood.

Re: PureBasic 5.20 beta 18 is out

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:47 pm
by DK_PETER
@Danilo

Hey Danilo.
I too, just don't want the auto update possibility. There is a vast difference in sizes between Visual Studio and PB. It take me less than 2 minutes
to uninstall and install a new version of PB, while it takes considerably longer (waaay longer) with VS. VS embeds itself everywhere and requires waaaay more
attention than our beloved PB.
During a VS update I encontered a write error, which resulted in a complete 'coerced' uninstall and thereby reinstallation. I found it extremely annoying.
PB is small, fast and extremely powerfull and features like auto fixes and updates will demand much more attention from the PB team.
Attention which is better served by making us happy by enhancing PB.
I do love the 'Check for updates' feature, though. ;-)

Best regards
Peter