Tsoding did a PB stream...

[Fred]

Looks cool, is it possible to detect the linux version to install the proper packages for it (and display an error (with a package list for an hint) if not the distro isn't supported) ?

[Quin]

Seconding the suggestion for a setup.sh script, when I set up PureBasic on a Raspberry Pi to host my server application, I was surprised that I had to go manually hunt down packages myself and kept getting weird errors
Eventually got it to work, but some sort of streamlining would definitely be good for PB

[chi]

Looks cool, is it possible to detect the linux version to install the proper packages for it (and display an error (with a package list for an hint) if not the distro isn't supported) ?

With my ~10 hours of Linux experience I'm most likely not the best choice for this task, but something like this:

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#!/bin/bash

install_packages(){
	local distro="$1"
	local PACKAGE_LIST

	case "$distro" in
		debian)
			PACKAGE_LIST=(
				"build-essential" "gcc" "g++" 
				"libxxf86vm-dev" "libxine2-dev" "unixodbc-dev" "libsdl1.2-dev" "libsdl2-dev" "libssl-dev" "libvlc-dev" "libgtk2.0-dev" "libgtk-3-dev"
				"libwebkit2gtk-4.0-dev"
				"libgl1-mesa-dev" "libgl1-mesa-glx"
			)
			for PACKAGE in "${PACKAGE_LIST[@]}"; do
				if ! dpkg -l | grep -q "$PACKAGE"; then
					echo "Installing: $PACKAGE"
					sudo apt update
					sudo apt install -y "$PACKAGE"
				else
					echo "Installed: $PACKAGE"
				fi
			done
		;;
		redhat)
			PACKAGE_LIST=() #?
			for PACKAGE in "${PACKAGE_LIST[@]}"; do
				if ! rpm -q "$PACKAGE" &> /dev/null; then
					echo "Installing: $PACKAGE"
					sudo yum install -y "$PACKAGE"
				else
					echo "Installed: $PACKAGE"
				fi
			done
		;;
		fedora)
			PACKAGE_LIST=() #?
			for PACKAGE in "${PACKAGE_LIST[@]}"; do
				if ! rpm -q "$PACKAGE" &> /dev/null; then
					echo "Installing: $PACKAGE"
					sudo dnf install -y "$PACKAGE"
				else
					echo "Installed: $PACKAGE"
				fi
			done
		;;
		arch)
			PACKAGE_LIST=() #?
			for PACKAGE in "${PACKAGE_LIST[@]}"; do
				if ! pacman -Q "$PACKAGE" &> /dev/null; then
					echo "Installing: $PACKAGE"
					sudo pacman -Syu --noconfirm "$PACKAGE"
				else
					echo "Installed: $PACKAGE"
				fi
			done
		;;
	esac
}

if command -v apt &> /dev/null; then
	echo "This is a Debian-based distribution."
	install_packages "debian"
elif command -v yum &> /dev/null; then
	echo "This is a Red Hat-based distribution."
	install_packages "redhat"
elif command -v dnf &> /dev/null; then
	echo "This is a Fedora-based distribution."
	install_packages "fedora"
elif command -v pacman &> /dev/null; then
	echo "This is an Arch-based distribution."
	install_packages "arch"
fi

PACKAGE_LIST for redhat, fedora and arch are empty for now. I don't even know if the packages are the same OR if Purebasic even runs on these distros?!

[tj1010]

When he then started blaming PB for his own stupidity, I switched off the video.

Exactly. Very distasteful, with such blatant profanities.

He went apeshit because of his own unprepared ignorance. Hard to fathom such people could maintain a fan base.

On a positive note: This could potentially mean more revenue for PB, and if you get enough people even temporarily wildly trying to do stuff, then you'll probably get some bug fixes out of it..

A lot of the PB community seem to be fans of influencer culture. I hope the programming influencers are better than the reverse-engineering and security influencers..

[fsw]

Mr. Tsoding is testing PureBasic again!
(just started watching, don't even know the outcome...)

EDIT:
Bottom line: He likes PB very much, but not sure if he would pay 79 Euros for it.
What he did not understand is that he gets Lifetime Updates!
Even though I do not use PB that much, I think that PB is a bargain for what it offers.
Won't misss it in my toolbox.

[Fred]

Ha, glad it went better this time

[mk-soft]

I watched the 2024 video. Although I can't speak English and the commentary had subtitles,
it was very embarrassing what I saw there.

Some comments
- Take the 64 bit version
- You should know the difference between 32bit and 64 bit

Where is the new contribution from him.

[Mijikai]

YoutTube Video on Purebasic (from Twitch stream):
I tried a $100 IDE for BASIC in 2025

[jacdelad]

This is pain to watch, and I don't mean his accent...

[Quin]

Yeesh...and I thought I swear a lot...
This guy is next level.

[fsw]

Yeah, I know what you mean.
Had to make breaks and watch it 20 minutes at the time.

However, his unusual approach is exposing inconsistencies in programming language syntax and compiler tooling.
Most of the time he's spot on.

With PB he liked the consistency of the syntax.
Without reading the manual before starting to play with PB, he managed to get a small 3D app working.

The funny thing: he never managed to learn what '#' means in front of a identifier.
Used it anyway, especially #PB_Any.
Reading the 'We start programming' in the PB help would have eased his pain...

What I learned in this video about PB is that a tilde '~' in front of a literal string will allow for escape sequences inside the string.

COOL!

[Piero]

Was this "killed" because of "big" executables?  ;P
https://openxtalk.org/OXTDownloads.html

[jacdelad]

COOL!

No. Not cool. Just another video of someone talking about something he doesn't know anything about. And some people will watch this and think this is a well done review. Just awful. Look at the comments, someone even said you can use % as a variable type identifier. No thinking, no simple watching the video, just being part of something at all costs.

As a IPC-A-610 certified specialist I know a lot about soldering. In my last job I was programming machines which inspect solder joints. Whenever I see one of these well done instruction videos created by one of these "I can teach you everything" guys, I can tell you...I bet!...these solder joints wouldn't pass my inspection.

So what I want to say: Just because someone is saying a lot, doesn't mean he has something meaningful to say. Keep the things with the professionals, or people who know about it. Btw: He could have simply read the help file, there's a good passage for starters...

[Kiffi]

Just another video of someone talking about something he doesn't know anything about.

+1

[fsw]

COOL!

No. Not cool. Just another video of someone talking about something he doesn't know anything about. And some people will watch this and think this is a well done review. Just awful. Look at the comments, someone even said you can use % as a variable type identifier. No thinking, no simple watching the video, just being part of something at all costs.

As a IPC-A-610 certified specialist I know a lot about soldering. In my last job I was programming machines which inspect solder joints. Whenever I see one of these well done instruction videos created by one of these "I can teach you everything" guys, I can tell you...I bet!...these solder joints wouldn't pass my inspection.

So what I want to say: Just because someone is saying a lot, doesn't mean he has something meaningful to say. Keep the things with the professionals, or people who know about it. Btw: He could have simply read the help file, there's a good passage for starters...

Please do not assume you get everything right:

Actually my `COOL` was because of PB allowing `~` in front of a literal string for escape sequences inside the string.

Also, if you would have read my post you would have seen that I said:

Reading the 'We start programming' in the PB help would have eased his pain...