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Re: PureBasic 6.12 beta 3 is out !
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:29 pm
by Cezary
Right click on the selected help text do not open popup menu (Linux Mint Cinnamon).
BTW: is it possible to make a source line spacing in Linux editor little greater?
Re: PureBasic 6.12 beta 3 is out !
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:35 am
by SMaag
Thank's to Fred and his Team!
PB is an amazing piece of Software. In my opinion PB-Team is faster in Bugfixes and more transparent as much bigger companies!
If I take a comment form Niklaus Wirth how he described the Oberon Compiler and xchange Oberon with PureBasic we hit the point!
PureBasic is designed with a motto attributed to Albert Einstein in mind: "Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler." The principal guideline was to concentrate on features that are basic and essential and to omit ephemeral issues.
An other comment from Niklaus Wirth:
A good compiler must be so simple that a single programmer can understand it completely.
That's exactly what PB is!
Niklaus Wirth always promoted the reduced complexity of programming languages.
That's exactly what PB is!
I guess Fred konws Niklaus Wirth and red some of his papers/books!
As we can see in PB, he implemented it perfectly.
For those who don't know the pioneer of modern programming languages, Niklaus Wirth:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niklaus_Wirth
Re: PureBasic 6.12 beta 3 is out !
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 11:05 pm
by elwood
I had a small script that compiled into a 22KB binary (compiled in 2019). Now with 6.11, it creates a 159KB file. Ouch!
Re: PureBasic 6.12 beta 3 is out !
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:39 am
by jacdelad
elwood wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 11:05 pm
I had a small script that compiled into a 22KB binary (compiled in 2019). Now with 6.11, it creates a 159KB file. Ouch!
Was discussed since 6.0. New and updated libraries and linker and such.
Re: PureBasic 6.12 beta 3 is out !
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:39 pm
by Quin
jacdelad wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:39 am
elwood wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 11:05 pm
I had a small script that compiled into a 22KB binary (compiled in 2019). Now with 6.11, it creates a 159KB file. Ouch!
Was discussed since 6.0. New and updated libraries and linker and such.
This actually came in 6.10. Fred explained why
here, and if you have an app where size really, really matters, 6.04 isn't that old and should still produce binaries in the 20 KB range like that.
Re: PureBasic 6.12 beta 3 is out !
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:16 am
by Randy Walker
Quin wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:39 pm
This actually came in 6.10. Fred explained why
here, and if you have an app where size really, really matters, 6.04 isn't that old and should still produce binaries in the 20 KB range like that.
Ok Quin, Thanks for the hint. I happen to have v5.62x64 still installed so I compiled using that and 285 came down to a more reaasonable 108k.
Re: PureBasic 6.12 beta 3 is out !
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 4:47 pm
by elwood
Quin wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:39 pm
This actually came in 6.10. Fred explained why
here, and if you have an app where size really, really matters, 6.04 isn't that old and should still produce binaries in the 20 KB range like that.
Ah, I was reacting to "New linker for DLL creation to have smaller binary size (Windows)"
Thanks guys.
Re: PureBasic 6.12 beta 4 is out !
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:21 am
by Fred
2024-08-16: 6.12 beta 4 is out with a few more fixes. It should be the last beta, so don't hesitate to test it with your projects !
Bugfixes for this version:This list was created automatically. All updated bug threads from the date of the last final version have been determined.
Re: PureBasic 6.12 beta 3 is out !
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:43 am
by Randy Walker
SMaag wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:35 am
An other comment from Niklaus Wirth:
A good compiler must be so simple that a single programmer can understand it completely.
I'm a
married (not a)programmer and I have no clue what's happening in the compiler. And I'm a scaredy-cat so pardon me if I wait for the LSD (or whatever it is) release. LSD v 6.11 didn't like me too much.
Re: PureBasic 6.12 beta 3 is out !
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:01 pm
by Lord
Randy Walker wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:43 am
...
And I'm a scaredy-cat so pardon me if I wait for the LSD (or whatever it is) release. LSD v 6.11 didn't like me too much.
Try LTS instead of LSD.

Re: PureBasic 6.12 beta 4 is out !
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:09 pm
by jacdelad
Nah, Randy has a special version.

I, for one, have the STD version.
Re: PureBasic 6.12 beta 4 is out !
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:09 am
by Psychophanta
No significative bugs found by me in none of these latest betas ,

Re: PureBasic 6.12 beta 4 is out !
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:34 am
by Randy Walker
jacdelad wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:09 pm
I, for one, have the STD version.
I hope you wear a keyboard condom.

Re: PureBasic 6.12 beta 4 is out !
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 2:09 pm
by Fred
I just updated the Windows x86 and x64 package with the new lld-link, could some of you tests the package to see if it's working as expected (using new install dirs) ?
Re: PureBasic 6.12 beta 4 is out !
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 2:52 pm
by mk-soft
Fast test successful.
PB v6.12 x86/x64 ASM/C