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Re: To Fred and Timo: Can we have a discussion about the fut
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:23 pm
by Mistrel
Marc56us wrote:We should do a survey, but how?
That's not important right now. First we would need to know if Fred and Timo are willing to have a dialog with us and whether they would even accept any proposals. This is ultimately up to them.
Re: To Fred and Timo: Can we have a discussion about the fut
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:41 pm
by wilbert
Mistrel wrote:First we would need to know if Fred and Timo are willing to have a dialog with us and whether they would even accept any proposals. This is ultimately up to them.
Fred has mentioned several times that you can contact him and pay him for specific things to be added / fixed.
Maybe some kind of collective fund raising for specific features could be an idea ?
Re: To Fred and Timo: Can we have a discussion about the fut
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:07 pm
by Fred
We are reading all ideas/suggestions and pick from them for future features. That said, if you use PB as a living and want a specific feature implemented quickly, the bounty system could work for us. For example, you could submit your idea, and how much you want to put in it (others could add as well), and Timo, Comtois/Guillot (for 3D), or I could then pick it, do the dev and get the bounty. I dunno if Timo and others are interested in it, they will probably tell

. That said, the idea has to be accepted, we won't put in PB anything irrelevant, it has to be useful for as many people as possible.
Re: To Fred and Timo: Can we have a discussion about the fut
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:11 pm
by Mistrel
I think a bounty on suggestions is a fantastic idea. I'll have to do some research on what options might be available for such a thing.
I know that I would personally be more than happy to vote with my money for the future of PureBasic. And I'm certain that many others feel that way as well.

Re: To Fred and Timo: Can we have a discussion about the fut
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:23 pm
by srod
Mistrel wrote:I think a bounty on suggestions is a fantastic idea. I'll have to do some research on what options might be available for such a thing.
I know that I would personally be more than happy to vote with my money for the future of PureBasic. And I'm certain that many others feel that way as well.

+1.
Re: To Fred and Timo: Can we have a discussion about the fut
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:58 pm
by Cyllceaux
Mistrel wrote:I think a bounty on suggestions is a fantastic idea. I'll have to do some research on what options might be available for such a thing.
I know that I would personally be more than happy to vote with my money for the future of PureBasic. And I'm certain that many others feel that way as well.

+1
I have my own company and use PB to write in-house and customer-software. But I'm restricted in mostly "small" things. So I like the idea of the bounty system.
Re: To Fred and Timo: Can we have a discussion about the fut
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:14 pm
by mk-soft
I don't have there against having a version v5.x3 or v5.x7, so that sometimes the small minibugs are cleaned up.
The little OOP with interfaces is also sufficient and does not have to be extended at all.
It is sufficient to create the necessary own interfaces required by other programs.
For example the Shutdown Interface for OPC (Automation) which you have to provide when writing an OPC client.
Or if you want to provide some DLL functions for VB-Script, which I had to.
This used to be very easy with VB6, in which you created an OCX.
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Re: To Fred and Timo: Can we have a discussion about the fut
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:19 pm
by skywalk
Great, how do we get started?
Where is the bounty system captured?
In the forum or another web page?
Re: To Fred and Timo: Can we have a discussion about the fut
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:32 pm
by User_Russian
Fred wrote:Indeed current compiler can still be improved here and here, and it will be done when I can squeeze back some more time to focus on it.
That's also why we are focusing on libraries, it's easier to jump on and off, and makes some valuable progress for everyone.
There are many ideas for the perfecting of the compiler and libraries.
Some of them.
Fast string
Code optimization (
The solution was suggested, but it does not work in PB 5.30 and newer).
logical shift
Function Unsigned. (A simple solution for unsigned variables).
CatchPreferences
Converting variable types
A pointer to a constant (This is added in PB 5.50,
but has not yet been implemented).
Pseudotype in procedure (Useful for ProcedureDLL).
Tips for procedures
And it would be nice if, worked the choice of the type of assembler instructions.

Re: To Fred and Timo: Can we have a discussion about the fut
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:39 pm
by Bitblazer
Mistrel wrote:I think a bounty on suggestions is a fantastic idea. I'll have to do some research on what options might be available for such a thing.
I know that I would personally be more than happy to vote with my money for the future of PureBasic. And I'm certain that many others feel that way as well.

+1 (great idea imho)
ps:
maybe research these
Re: To Fred and Timo: Can we have a discussion about the fut
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:56 pm
by the.weavster
Fred wrote:For example, you could submit your idea, and how much you want to put in it (others could add as well), and Timo, Comtois/Guillot (for 3D), or I could then pick it, do the dev and get the bounty.
OK, I'll get the ball rolling (and I hope others will offer to contribute too if they'd also like these features prioritized):
These are features I will donate a new single user license fee (EUR 79) for if they're in the next release of PB:
Native support for MariaDB
SetMailBodyText() / SetMailBodyHTML()
HTTPRequest() (as implemented in SpiderBasic)
These offers aren't dependent on each other, I will honour each one individually.
Re: To Fred and Timo: Can we have a discussion about the fut
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:56 pm
by bbanelli
the.weavster wrote:These are features I will donate a new single user license fee (EUR 79) for if they're in the next release of PB:
Native support for MariaDB
SetMailBodyText() / SetMailBodyHTML()
HTTPRequest() (as implemented in SpiderBasic)
These offers aren't dependent on each other, I will honour each one individually.
Ditto!
Re: To Fred and Timo: Can we have a discussion about the fut
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:16 pm
by Little John
the.weavster wrote:SetMailBodyText() / SetMailBodyHTML()
The mail library is currently just a toy. In order to change it into a tool, more improvements are needed. Creating a mail and sending it are completely different things, which should be clearly separated. We should have e.g. the choice to save a created mail to disk and to load an existing mail from disk.
Re: To Fred and Timo: Can we have a discussion about the fut
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:29 pm
by HeX0R
I really love this idea and would be happy to spend my money to evolve PB, but we need some structured way to do so.
If now anyone throws in his own wishes, this whole thread will turn into a mess and we will win nothing!
Re: To Fred and Timo: Can we have a discussion about the fut
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:31 am
by Cyllceaux
How about founding/donations something like this:
- FastString = 500€
- DateQ = 500€
- Faster ListIconView = 1.000€
- Multicolumn TreeView = 1.000€
- PB on Raspberry PI = 10.000€
- Structure Pointer as Return Parameter= 10.000€
- RTF in EditorGadget = 1.000€
- WebKit for Windows = 1.000€
- ...
This is what I would pay and I think there are a lot of mor people who would join that