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Re: FireFox 4 final ready for download

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:44 am
by Seymour Clufley
Crikey, I didn't mean to kill the conversation!

Re: FireFox 4 final ready for download

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:56 am
by c4s
Just for your information:
I'm not that happy about Firefox anymore. Version 4.0 constantly crashes, not just a program crash but my whole system freezes!
I never had this issue with earlier versions and also tried to disable the new hardware-acceleration but it doesn't help... :|

Re: FireFox 4 final ready for download

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:28 am
by buddymatkona
@c4s
I had the same problem with FF4 Beta crashing but the final FF4 has never had any problem on Win 7 64-bit. Some people are complaining about the new FF and Chrome both crashing without the latest video drivers. Mozilla has a list of problem drivers here:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Blocklisting/B ... cs_Drivers

Re: FireFox 4 final ready for download

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:09 pm
by TomS
Only one crash so far. No OS involved though. Everything else kept working.
FF 3.6 was a real pain. Almost once a day a crash -_-

But what really bothers me is the fact, that websites don't get displayed right away.
Firefox is downloading the stuff and displays a white page until enough data is downloaded to display at least one screensize. Then it's displayed all at once. :?

Re: FireFox 4 final ready for download

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:36 pm
by c4s
@buddymatkona
Thanks for the tip! My driver for Radeon 9800 Pro/XP is indeed a little outdated...let's see if it will help.

Re: FireFox 4 final ready for download

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:30 pm
by c4s
c4s wrote:@buddymatkona
Thanks for the tip! My driver for Radeon 9800 Pro/XP is indeed a little outdated...let's see if it will help.
Unfortunately updating the driver didn't help, just crashed again. :evil:

Re: FireFox 4 final ready for download

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:22 pm
by MachineCode
Does anyone else think it sucks that a VIDEO DRIVER can crash a WEB BROWSER? The world of software is truly turning to crap lately. Too many stupid ideas going into apps these days. I mean, come on, hardware video acceleration for web browsing? WTF? Insane!

Re: FireFox 4 final ready for download

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:24 pm
by eesau
MachineCode wrote:Does anyone else think it sucks that a VIDEO DRIVER can crash a WEB BROWSER? The world of software is truly turning to crap lately. Too many stupid ideas going into apps these days. I mean, come on, hardware video acceleration for web browsing? WTF? Insane!
Certainly not insane, it makes a lot of sense to use the full capabilities that your computer and your gpu can offer you. Besides, you can turn off the hardware acceleration.

Re: FireFox 4 final ready for download

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:00 pm
by c4s
eesau wrote:Besides, you can turn off the hardware acceleration.
I disabled it because I thought it might fix my problem of constant system crashes, but it didn't help at all.

@MachineCode
My system just crashes without any notice! I always have to cold reboot my computer. This really sucks and makes me mad as hell. :evil:

Re: FireFox 4 final ready for download

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:38 pm
by Zach
Hardware acceleration is the future of web browsing, sorry to break it to those who do not think highly of the idea.

Where do you think complex Flash Games, streaming video decoding, and all these other cool new real time effects are going to get their power from?

Sure you can do it on CPU but I'm sure we've all opened a sluggish Javascripted-in-overdrive web site before and been frustrated that it was so slow.. Even sites that do some of these things now, can be seen as somewhat slow and the user-interface can feel unresponsive when there is a lot of content on the screen.

A new level of graphics and interactivity is coming to the web in the future.. 3D games in your web browsers, more traditional type games played over the web, etc.. Hardware Acceleration will be the key component/backbone making it possible.

Re: FireFox 4 final ready for download

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:35 pm
by blueznl
FF3.x didn't crash on my, FF4 didn't crash on me. On none of my machines, actually. (All running XP though.)