Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:51 am
it's essential. 
NopeKale wrote:it's essential.
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EnableExplicit on by default.
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:59 am
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:36 pm
It is.freak wrote:
Nope
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:53 pm
For those who believe it is essential, it's probably well worth the few characters you have to enter to enable it.
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:07 pm
agreedKale wrote:EnableExplicit is essential for any serious PB program you write.
agreedrsts wrote:For those who believe it is essential, it's probably well worth the few characters you have to enter to enable it.
best argument of allakj wrote:Traditionally one of the big features of Basic is that beginners can ignore all code housekeeping/declarations and still get simple programs to work.
Making EnableExplicit the default would be another departure from this tenet of simplicity.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:15 pm
Most error from beginners a false typed variables, false scope of variables
and so on. EnableExplicit is the only way to help beginners.
Beginner make copy and paste with missing thinks, EnableExplicit should
help, so it's for beginners the best using this great feature.
and so on. EnableExplicit is the only way to help beginners.
Beginner make copy and paste with missing thinks, EnableExplicit should
help, so it's for beginners the best using this great feature.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:37 pm
> EnableExplicit is the only way to help beginners
Nah, it only holds their hand and doesn't teach them to code carefully. IMO.
Nah, it only holds their hand and doesn't teach them to code carefully. IMO.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:36 pm
Which traditionally produces bad programmers.akj wrote:Traditionally one of the big features of Basic is that beginners can ignore all code housekeeping/declarations and still get simple programs to work.
Holding beginners' hands is the only way to teach them properly. Learning to code 'carefully' with discipline is not something a beginner would do and is simply the process of unnecessarily trying to avoid pitfalls that can be caught automatically by the compiler. Honestly, why make things hard?akj wrote:> EnableExplicit is the only way to help beginners
Nah, it only holds their hand and doesn't teach them to code carefully. IMO.
Saying that, I wouldn't want EnableExplicit enabled by default though.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 4:50 pm
I'm no beginner and all I can say is that when I do not use EnableExplicit I spend much more time hunting bugs than I do when using this option!
Still, I do not understand the fuss; use it if you wish etc?
Still, I do not understand the fuss; use it if you wish etc?
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 6:24 pm
I find it a luxury to be able to draft code without having to think about having to use Define/Protected all the time. I only add EnabledExplicit after I'm satisfied with my code and begin locking down on its functionality.
freak as a point.freak wrote:If it you have no problem putting 'Define' before every single variable, why is it such a big deal to put a single 'EnableExplicit' in the source ?
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 10:55 pm
No training wheels by default please!
Yes Enable Explicit is useful but not while your hacking about.
Yes Enable Explicit is useful but not while your hacking about.
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