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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:52 am
by PB
> someone sent me than a program which used the PB command
> 'RunProgram' will be detected as spyware
Hmm, I use Avast and never saw an alert about this. Has the person who
reported it, tried it both with and without RunProgram? Maybe their exe is
getting infected by something else?
Besides, if RunProgram is just calling ShellExecute then the virus app is
at fault, and not RunProgram.

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:42 am
by NoahPhense
Well I use Avast... but more importantly I use BlackICE ..
Not only does everyones exe, yup including EXCEL.EXE and MSWORD.EXE
need my approval to be put into the BlackICE Database on my system
in order for it to even launch.
But furthermore, even after it launchs, and attempts to do ANY form of
communication, wether it be LAN communication, or WAN (internet)
communications, it needs my "further" approval ..
- np
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:45 am
by dagcrack
NoahPhense wrote:Well I use Avast... but more importantly I use BlackICE ..
Not only does everyones exe, yup including EXCEL.EXE and MSWORD.EXE
need my approval to be put into the BlackICE Database on my system
in order for it to even launch.
But furthermore, even after it launchs, and attempts to do ANY form of
communication, wether it be LAN communication, or WAN (internet)
communications, it needs my "further" approval ..
- np
Same here

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 3:59 am
by DoubleDutch
I tested it, nothing wierd happened here. But the antivirus programs do seem to make mistakes all the time.
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:23 am
by NoahPhense
DoubleDutch wrote:I tested it, nothing wierd happened here. But the antivirus programs do seem to make mistakes all the time.
Hey dude.. I don't use your app, but its big and its tough from what I
understand.
As for people building blockers for your app. There are no laws in any
country that will stop them from doing that. And you can't create any
cheesy license agreement that will protect you against the big boys.
Meaning any AV company, Spyware company, or even myself. If I
decided to buy that app, then ripped into the client .. and built a tiny
blocker for and put it out on the internet for FREE. There is nothing
that anyone could do about it.
Of course I wouldn't need that, nor anything. Because as I said earlier,
no apps run without being in my DB.. literally, even if you gave me a
new exe right now, of any type, I get this message. But keep in mind,
that this is with
ANY new file that can 'execute' ..
Then, even if I let this program run. And it trys to touch anything on the
network. I get this:
Anyhow Cudos to you. Hope you're making some money with it.
- np
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:53 am
by DoubleDutch
NoahPhense:Nice looking application.
The main reason for putting up the now-infamous notice was to attempt to stop companies like Grisoft (avg) from automatically deleting the program without any prompt whatsoever. A couple of times AVG deleted programs written in PB that were not SpyMon!
They need to be sure that programs that automatically get deleted (if any) are really hostile. It seem that the method of checking is not accurate enough to be reliable to do a delete without prompt. Commercial programs should at least in any event get a prompt as to what to do with them.
In this case (counterspy) they are stating that its a commercial program and the default action is to suggest not deleting it. Because this is the case I will be supplying them with information about a special registry setting that will stop "datasneak" from running if set - just in case the user really wants rid of it. Soon this key will also force datasneak to uninstall itself if found.
Hopefully other anti-trojan software houses will take note and create a similar system. Probabily not though as they don't usually know how reply to emails until threatened.

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:34 pm
by techjunkie
thefool wrote:haha what a joke. PestPatrol can suck my balls!
I hope your balls are shaved...

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:16 pm
by dagcrack
techjunkie wrote:thefool wrote:haha what a joke. PestPatrol can suck my balls!
I hope your balls are shaved...


oh god... hahahaa
Ok seriously now.. eh..
(laughs)
They should suck his balls I mean, Everyone knows: pestpatrol is nasty! (plus he would obviously enjoy it)
*walks away laugthing*
Hmm he states to do some power lifting and now It could be true about the shaved balls

I better stay away from people like thefool

- They turn out weird with all those hasselhoff pictures flying around..

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:23 pm
by thefool
haha
oh i wouldnt like to be in your shoes now

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:45 pm
by dagcrack
Damn I can see the rocket coming right to my a...
*seals with glue*

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 5:21 pm
by thefool
Hoho!
You shouldnt have drinked all that coffee! I have put laxative in it!
And now you glued your a**
im happy i dont have to clean up afterwards!
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 5:34 pm
by dagcrack
Well, coffee IS a laxative, same with many other things. Hence: drink too much and you'll feel it's _real_ power! hehe.
Go on, drink 6 cups (or 20 -evil laugh- ).
6 cups = milkshake output
20 cups = morgue output
..why I have the feeling you always push me off-topic in purpose...
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 5:46 pm
by thefool
why i push you offtopic? I just wrote something about pestpatrol then you begin talking about shaved balls and hasselhoff pictures

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 5:57 pm
by dagcrack
I didnt start with the offtopic techjunkie did!
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 5:59 pm
by GeoTrail
I have forgotten what this thread was all about
