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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 11:56 pm
by Dare2
Heya Thefool,
So would it be true to say you are a FireFox supporter?
lol.
I've tried IE, Opera, K-Meleon, FireFox, Mozilla for extended periods each, and NS briefly. Ran with FireFox for ages, liked it, thought it was the best.
But since installing XP I find it sluggish, and it crashes from time to time. It has even hung my comp a few times. Everything except k-Meleon outperformed it. (k-Meleon is also sluggish and crashworthy).
So now I am using Mozilla (still safer than IE) and fastest on my setup.
In one of your posts you said something about setting FireFox up properly. What exactly needs to be done to set it up properly?
Thanks.
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 1:00 am
by aszid
http://www.tweakguides.com/Firefox_1.html
this has almost all of the tweaks... (yes, i actually DID set up firefox right, and it's still slower than IE on my system)
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 10:08 am
by PB
> CERTAIN pages do load faster in IE
Okay, so name a few so I can see this for myself...

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 10:10 am
by PB
> Firefox has its flaws like crashing while trying to view PDF files
This is just BULLSHIT -- it doesn't crash when I view PDFs. Just because
someone has a crappy/corrupted system doesn't mean we all do!
> and taking a lot of time to load
Compared to IE, yes -- because IE is PART OF THE OPERATING SYSTEM
and thus always partly in memory! If IE was to load from scratch every
time it was loaded, then it too would be slower to start!
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 10:11 am
by PB
>> Based on this, Firefox SHOULD be more hacked than IE, but it isn't
>
> ?? FF is not more popular than IE !!
I think I lost concentration out of frustration when I made that comment.
> The day that FF becomes the most used, there will be a lot of holes
> founded and exploits
Even if that's true, the updates to Firefox have been faster than anything
Microsoft have done for IE. So any fixes get done in a matter of days,
compared to months. This can be seen for yourself if you look at the
past fixes compared to IE's past fixes.
Also, there simply isn't much to exploit compared to IE. Most of IE's stuff
are ActiveX exploits, which, as I've pointed out, Firefox doesn't have. You
can't exploit something that doesn't exist.
> [Firefox is] the Flinstone's browser???
No. Firefox has lots of features via extensions... you only install the stuff
you want. Firefox does more for me than IE currently does.

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 10:16 am
by Num3
IE ????
What's that ????
Was it an icon on desktop that i erased !?!?!?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 11:25 am
by Doobrey
aszid wrote:
in relatively recent times there have been tons of security updates for OSX, at the same time as apples market share has been growing. This means one of 2 things
a- Apple started making crappier software recently
b- people have been targeting osx more as it has become more popular
now... as far as apple fans say, osx is the most secure OS that apple has ever made... that leaves option b.
What about the idea of plugging security holes just because they're there?
Or would you prefer Apple to do it the MS way, only release a fix once there are exploits out in the wild?
Anyway, I'm a happy Firefox user on Windows and the only thing I have a problem with is WindowsUpdate which wants to run ActiveX.
The last time I ran WindowsUpdate, it complained my security settings were too high and told me to reduce them

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 11:54 am
by thefool
Dare2 wrote:Heya Thefool,
So would it be true to say you are a FireFox supporter?
yes

and im proud of it!
seriously. I belive in all PB's posts, and i belive that your system does have a fault somewhere. i run 4 machines [2 windows pc's, 1 linux pc & one laptop], the linux and 1 of the pc's are mine and the rest is my familys. i just installed firefox on them, removed the IE icon now they use it without complaining

same with openoffice! i just have to help a bit now and then but it works!
but there is something wrong with your install. firefox crashed 1 time here, but thats nothing compared to internet explorer..
utopimania wrote:
I'm on a 1Mb/s (2Mb/s soon) line. and I do browse a lot, and ..haven't tried Firefox yet, you're
right about that.
good, you havent tried firefox

so you cant tell that internet explorer is faster. i would recommend you to download it. you are on 1mbit and if you want to use 5 minutes [download AND installation AND learning to use] of your live that will save you billions of seconds in waiting time and system restarts, try it

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 12:05 pm
by Dare2
@
aszid
Thanks for that link!
thefool wrote:Dare2 wrote:Heya Thefool,
So would it be true to say you are a FireFox supporter?
yes

and im proud of it!
thefool wrote:... but there is something wrong with your install. firefox crashed 1 time here, but thats nothing compared to internet explorer..
Okay, will reinstall again, using tips from aszid's link and see if it goes okay. Loved FF until recently. Then was sad ...
thefool wrote:same with openoffice
Yeah, I also use open office!

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 12:13 pm
by thefool
the new 2.0 [allthough beta] looks very promising! its damn pretty hehe looks a bit like office some says, but i think it looks even prettier.

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 12:24 pm
by Kale
Firefox Rocks! Period! Anyone who says any different is a big poo poo head!

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 12:56 pm
by Fred
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 4:07 pm
by Joakim Christiansen
All the browsers are great, we have all different needs.
I read about a test between IE and FF in some magazine, it said IE was more secure. (but it still use FF, I like the interface)
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 4:11 pm
by traumatic
Microsoft Monthly Magazine?

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 4:29 pm
by Dare2
LOL.