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Re: 5 Minor features that users would like to get

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:16 pm
by freak
We don't talk much about our plans anymore for one simple reason: plans change.

Some times we do announce even the hint of something that is to come and people hype it up to such ridiculous proportions that there is no way that the actual implementation will satisfy everything that people dreamed up in their head. Then if the release comes all we get is disappointment that what is actually a pretty cool feature did not live up to everyone's wild expectations. It is even worse if we decide to postpone or drop the announced feature.

So yes, this forum is not meant to be a "planned features tracker" at all. It is a suggestion box. If you have something you want added, feel free to post it. We read it, and if it is a good idea, is doable and fits with existing plans for PB we might do it. I say "might", because as I said: plans change.

If I were forced to answer every post in this section, the answer would be "maybe" for pretty much every post. The same goes for any kind of tracker solution. The status would simply be "open".

Re: 5 Minor features that users would like to get

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:11 pm
by netmaestro
What we seem to forget sometimes is that Purebasic is largely a gift. I paid around $80 usd for my license nearly seven years ago, money I could have used to maybe take my wife to dinner once, and for that small sacrifice I received lifetime updates to the Purebasic language. Today the product is at least twice what it was when I purchased it. All those brilliant new libraries and improvements I got, and will continue to get, for nothing. Yes, I make the occasional feature request too. But when time goes by and my suggestions don't get implemented, I'm not going to complain. It just wouldn't seem fair.

Re: 5 Minor features that users would like to get

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:04 pm
by Fangbeast
netmaestro wrote:money I could have used to maybe take my wife to dinner once,
Gasp!! You didn't take your wife to dinner??? Ooeerr, ahh, mm, oh bugger, neither did I damnit.

Re: 5 Minor features that users would like to get

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:36 am
by Foz
hmmm.... feature requests...

I demand v4.61, v4.70... and for good measure v5.0

I hope you have this planned - take your time though... ;)

Re: 5 Minor features that users would like to get

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:20 pm
by void
Danilo wrote:For serious work i choose something that works better for me.
This is also what I do, but it's complicated by the fact that the language I want does not exist in the fashion I desire it.

It just happens that I can implement the thing that works better for me IN PureBasic. :D

So that's what I'm doing.

Science ensues: I am writing a compiler and lightweight virtual machine to produce a managed environment for the programming language I want.

I'm sure I'll be (the rest of the way) mad before the year is out.

Re: 5 Minor features that users would like to get

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:56 pm
by blueznl
IsSoundPlaying()
SoundPosition()
SoundLength()

I find it rather silly that all sorts of graphical things can be done, but I can't figure out if a loaded sample is still playing or not...

Re: 5 Minor features that users would like to get

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:54 pm
by Zach
I kind of feel the same way.
PB does a lot of neat stuff, and a lot of it is indeed very useful. But then it also doesn't do stuff that most people might consider, the bare essentials no?
It's not really my intent to start a long drawn out debate about that, however.

I know what PureBasic is, and what it can do. There are things I would like to see, and things I can't even begin to understand, but I take it for what it is. A Hobbyist language aimed mostly at people like me that want to write programs, and have great ideas for them, but are too intimidated by larger more successful tools such as C, C++, Java, etc.

I often grasp the with notion of outgrowing PureBasic and become frustrated.. Well if I can use C or C++ or whatever to add this functionality I want to PB, or I learn the syntax so I can maybe write a wrapper and port something useful to PB - why bother with the "to PB" part? Why not just go on in the next language?

It can be a real morale dilemma for some people. I would love to see PB continue to grow and succeed and have all kinds of neat, wonderful features. But I also know that it is just 2 guys that can't always have time to work on PB, and don't seem at all interested in trying to make a real go at it as a commercial product, trying to make a full-time income out of it.

Mostly I just accept this, because I have gotten much farther in PB than other language (doesn't say much about my skills) and I hope to continue to be able to use it for years to come.. I don't care if OOP never comes to PB because that's not what it was built for. But even I too, look at simple things like the lack of multi-line commands and multi-line comments, and feel a little befuddled.

Sure, maybe some people think they are "stupid" and pointless "waste of time". But many others also feel the opposite and would like to see some of these more simple requests, implemented.