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newtheogott wrote:I do not like the idea to assume that people who possibly just change their interest, to get declared "dead". Instead i wonder that nobody here ever had an address or Phone number from Gnozal. He was so popular here. Besides that there were more. I have seen several discontinued Projects, Pre-Parsers, IDEs, OOP aproaches etc.

It's true; people change interests, move on, drop out, or even just pass away. But try to bear in mind that this is a public forum, and not an official PureBasic support site. All the contributions that you speak of are just that; contributions. They have all been shared voluntarily by generous forum members as guides and examples, and sometimes even as full-blown tools, but all without any guarantees, warranties, or expectation of support.

And being a forum, we take what we can get, use them, learn from them, and maybe even improve upon them. But what we don't do is impose upon the contributors, intrude upon their privacy, and least of all, expect them to exchange contact details so that they can be hounded by unreasonable forum members that expect more.

So, let's not worry about who's still around, or why they're not. Some perspective is important in this respect.

My comment regarding the best PB programmer was rather tongue in cheek; but Fred's accomplishments speak for themselves regardless of what languages he uses.

Asking who is the best programmer in this or that language is a rather meaningless question anyhow. You can measure 'best' in any number of ways, none of which will yield much in the way of general agreement. Would you measure it in an ability to break large problems down or on raw problem solving abilities or an aptitude for creating algorithms or shear determination not to give up and see things through or in being good in all areas but fantastic in a few specialised areas at the same time or in shear productivity... ? It just goes on. No, too subjective.

Take Gnozal for example. No one would surely deny that he was/is a great coder. He always amazed me with his shear productivity. He could bash out a complex lib in no time at all.

Would I say he is the best PB coder in the world? On some measures I would say that he is great. On others... not so great (some messy code could emanate from his person!) But then tidy code is probably not so important to him as it is me.

I do not believe such questions are either relevant or appropriate and are darn well impossible to answer in any objective way.

You don't know german history, else you would understand that finding out about talented people is a talent itself.

Sure, there are always people who do exceptional stuff in different areas.
Then there are people who generally are exceptional and do outstanding work.

Of course there are also people who are very busy and do a lot of hard work.

I always thought Gnozal was french.....

IdeasVacuum wrote:I always thought Gnozal was french.....

Gnozal's name is Philippe Guntz.

newtheogott wrote: He did alone translate all the PB include files from VS,
several hundred of Megabytes nearly without any Bugs in his cellar.
Then he wrote two Editors for PB, all of them nearly bug free in the first run.

completly wrong.
The 'Editor (if you mean JAPBE ) was written before by GPI.
Gnozal tried to adapt that.
So the Credits go to GPI.

Wait !!!

and that editor (JAPBE) bases on (open) sources written
by the PB-Team.

Btw. the actual PB-Editor, FormDesigner are written in PB by the PB-Team
for all 3 plattforms.

All the Gnozal stuff is windows only an was always closed source.

just my 2 cents on this topic.

Yes, possibly you are right on that. You name is also known to me.
You are also long time here and a famouse contributor.
Maybe you know who it is ... who is the best?

Yes GNOZAL is from Straßbourg (France)I just seen that he also sells PureFORM, i have mailed him some time ago.
Even there he does not answer.

blueb wrote:Apparently TronDoc passed away Nov 23, 2005

Seriously? WTF? Damn. I missed the thread back then:

http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... 17&t=22836

His web page from Archive.org:

http://web.archive.org/web/200712021039 ... btech.com/

I'm in shock now. His real name was Joe Block.

More info about his last app:

https://basic.wikispaces.com/theWRAP+Memorial+Edition

This is so sad.

Demivec wrote:

IdeasVacuum wrote:I always thought Gnozal was french.....

Gnozal's name is Philippe Guntz.

Yes GNOZAL is french.
I believe he is "alsacien" it's perhaps the reason why his name have the "german sound"
I believe Fred is also alsacien like Gnozal, when i see his adress of the fantaisie software.