NASA to Announce Mars Mystery Solved

[heartbone]

1) NASA = CIA

2) Professor James McCanney's work has been plagiarized once again by NASA.

MARS HAD VAST OCEANS AND LOST THEM RECENTLY SUB-PAGE

"March 06,2015 posting ... Yesterday NASA announced it had "discovered" that the Planet Mars had an extensive "ancient" ocean of course published in the NASA mouth piece journal SCIENCE which has been rubber stamp publishing NASA fairy tale "science" for decades ... a cozy affair ... in typical NASA fashion they used their access to the blind repeating news media and blanket distributed this to ALL news media so everyone had to see this ... THIS IS NOTHING LESS THAN THEFT OF ALREADY EXISTING WORK ... their phony "we observed Mars with telescopes" is a cover that will not wash with people who have followed my work ... my weather book describes the martian ocean signatures in great detail showing EXACTLY the same ocean structure that NASA animators show in their "discovery" ... the issue of oceans on Mars actually started with Immanuel Velikovsky in his book Worlds in Collision where he identifies ancient cultures all over the world reporting that Mars had been a blue water planet and its oceans and atmosphere were extracted by a large passing comet ... leaving the reddish bone dry hulk we see today ... of course in the 1950s (and even up to his death) Velikovsky never had good close up pictures of Mars ... of course the astronomer william hershel hypothesized water channels on mars upon looking at the seasonal "canal" looking changes through his refractor telescope BUT he had no real vision of water and was incorrect about his interpretation of a dying culture building canals to move water on mars ... when i started my work at Cornell University in 1979 I had never heard of Velikovsky as i had been out of the country for almost a decade ... little did i know that i landed in a bees hive of hatred and mal content in the sciences ... as i started interpreting data from space probes with my theoretical work on the electrical nature of the universe and being published in the peer review astrophysics journals i was met with server animosity to put it mildly ... and with the advent of close up pictures of the martian surface i noted that Mars had oceans ... large oceans ... and that THEY HAD TO BE RECENT ... and that the story of a large comet taking off the atmosphere was the only sane explanation ... over the decades NASA continued with its dribble that they were "searching for traces of water on mars" ... my picture of the day sub-page has been dedicated to pointing out the reasoning for recent oceans on mars ... so convincing have my arguments been and so far reaching to you the public ... that NASA had only one choice ... they started a major name smear campaign a few months ago against me and my good name and diligent work ... prepping for the theft of my work ... just as Stephen J Gould stole the Velikovsky theoretical concept of rapid genetic change ... NASA is poised to continue stealing ideas because their own complete nonsense is not selling well with the public any more ... in typical NASA theft mode ... they take the work of someone else and give it that "billions of years ago" twist with severely sketchy interpretation of data which itself is extremely sketchy and with no real basis (it could be interpreted 7 different ways besides their "billions of years" ago baloney which is necessary to prop up their failed model of solar system formation) ... more on this to continue ... PS Michael Mumma of Goddard is a government paid liar and thief ... he was also instrumental in robbing me of the credit i deserved for predicting x-rays in comets 15 years before they were accidentally discovered by a NASA satellite giving credit to another of Mumma's "students" Carey Lisse ... now he has a new boy named Geronimo Villanueva passing the baton to take over the Mars has oceans theft ... Mumma is back at work ... a professional thief and liar ..." jim mccanney

Recently as in ~3500 years ago.
I am a bit surprised and saddened that no one else here follows Jim's amazing work.
This is the same guy who last decade discovered the pattern of the prime numbers, which has put the NSA in such a conundrum.

I've listened to the good professor every week since August 2006 and this NASA announcement is definitely is not news.

[Keya]

2) Professor James McCanney's work has been plagiarized once again by NASA.
I am a bit surprised and saddened that no one else here follows Jim's amazing work.
This is the same guy who last decade discovered the pattern of the prime numbers, which has put the NSA in such a conundrum.

Any links? my searching didnt find much about it other than people saying its not worth wasting $24.95 to check if he has "found a pattern for prime numbers"... like, it seems his book is the only place this amazing breakthrough gets any mention, and not for example a single peer reviewed journal, or even a news article for that matter; he doesnt even have a Wiki page

[heartbone]

2) Professor James McCanney's work has been plagiarized once again by NASA.
I am a bit surprised and saddened that no one else here follows Jim's amazing work.
This is the same guy who last decade discovered the pattern of the prime numbers, which has put the NSA in such a conundrum.

Any links? my searching didnt find much about it other than people saying its not worth wasting $24.95 to check if he has "found a pattern for prime numbers"... like, it seems his book is the only place this amazing breakthrough gets any mention, and not for example a single peer reviewed journal, or even a news article for that matter; he doesnt even have a Wiki page

1) The controlling spooks of TPTB have scrubbed the wiki page a few years back.
2) There are substantial and formidable forces working to marginalize his work.
3) Because of point 2, Jim does not do YouTube or any other "social media". You'll have to go to his site for the official Jim McCanney information.
4) The search information delivered to you by Google is customized by algorithms designed by those seeking to tailor your knowledge.

Try this search engine.
http://norele.com/default.aspx?q=jim%20 ... %20numbers

Found on the page at the first link returned for my search is this interesting comment that I can relate to:
Sorry, Jimster, but Mr. Jancik is spot on. You're quick to launch a personal attack on Jim McCanney but, like most debunkers, you don't do your homework. McCanney is a decade ahead of his contemporaries with groundbreaking works like "Calculate Primes." Read it. You might learn something. Part of McCanney's brilliance, also, is the ability to explain complex principles to the layman, a talent sorely lacking in scientific circles. While naysayers like you spend time huffing and puffing, Jim McCanney writes scholarly books and offers a weekly science podcast, at no cost to the public. Really, Jimster, what have YOU done for science lately? When you were in diapers, McCanney was lecturing at Cornell. For those seeking a better understanding of Earth's weather, I would highly recommend another McCanney book, "Principia Meteorologia: The Physics of Sun Earth Weather."

[tj1010]

Start a tardigrade population on Mars

EDIT: Is there any public science or data on space navigation? Like which planets you use to boost speed off of gravity and which direction and timing and such?

I know you can probably get a rough idea off orbiting science.

[heartbone]

Start a tardigrade population on Mars

They are probably already living there.

With all the carbon dioxide and water and sunny days, I'm thinking it may be a good planet for growing plants that can survive in low pressure environments.

However until humanity can solve the problem of surviving a transit through the Van Allen radiation belts, no mammals will be able to get there.

That's right people, NASA faked those moon landings. Get over it.

And the Soviets, our fake enemies (good cop/bad cop partner).... they were in on the scam.

[tj1010]

Start a tardigrade population on Mars

They are probably already living there.

With all the carbon dioxide and water and sunny days, I'm thinking it may be a good planet for growing plants that can survive in low pressure environments.

However until humanity can solve the problem of surviving a transit through the Van Allen radiation belts, no mammals will be able to get there.

That's right people, NASA faked those moon landings. Get over it.

And the Soviets, our fake enemies (good cop/bad cop partner).... they were in on the scam.

I don't think space travel is faked. I've worked with radiation shielded hardware before. If it was faked there are enough smart people in the public sector to have already called them out..

The suggestion that the US and Russia are adversaries is pretty laughable though now and the last .6 centuries.. I'll have a golf course on Neptune before the US and Russia ever actually get in to a war or even do real economic sanctions against eachother..

You ever wonder why NASA and other space agencies don't just license data and tech access instead of relying on tax revenue and donations? It IS strange how discreet they are with tech and data especially considering who is paying for it..

[heartbone]

I don't think space travel is faked. I've worked with radiation shielded hardware before. If it was faked there are enough smart people in the public sector to have already called them out..

I don't think that space travel is faked.
I'm sure that unmanned objects have been sent to the moon.
But no human has ever set foot on, or even orbited Luna, and that's a cold hard fact.
But if you tell the average person that, their conditioning won't allow then to believe it.

You should realize that these high resolution pictures were impossible to take using the unshielded (from cosmic and thermal radiation) Hasselblad cameras that NASA alleged were used on the moon missions.
After being ruined by movement through the Van Allen belt, the silver emulsion film would certainly have been subjected to temperature conditions that would have rendered it even more unusable before these exposures could have been made.

I was my high school yearbook photographer back in the 1970s and I do know something about film photography including film development.
Note that no stars are ever visible in any these photographs, although the planet Earth is visible in several scenes.
There certainly should have been some trace of the highest magnitude stars on many of those high resolution photos!

There are far too many discrepancies between NASA's claims and the reality of physics to detail them all here.

If I weren't at one time a NASA fanboy, perhaps I would not feel so strongly about their fraud, but I now believe that enough proof exists to demonstrate that NASA are dirty liars, and do not deserve the positive attention that they are still given.
James McCanney on the other hand is a rare genius, one actually working for mankind, which is why TPTB work so hard to discredit him.
At the least now you are one of the small minority who have heard of him and his work.

The suggestion that the US and Russia are adversaries is pretty laughable though now and the last .6 centuries.. I'll have a golf course on Neptune before the US and Russia ever actually get in to a war or even do real economic sanctions against eachother..

Quite a bit of money was made on that farce.
Back in the day I like most thought the cold war was very real, but you are probably right.

[Keya]

1) The controlling spooks of TPTB have scrubbed the wiki page a few years back.

heh ooook... because only USA TPTB has the power to edit Wiki and keep pages the way they want, right!? and there's nowhere else on the web to publish!?

2) There are substantial and formidable forces working to marginalize his work.

Like ghosts and stuff right? because there's a million places on the web where he's free to publish his work where TPTB, US or otherwise, can't do anything about it.

3) Because of point 2, Jim does not do YouTube or any other "social media". You'll have to go to his site for the official Jim McCanney information.

That's fine if he doesnt use youtube or twitter, but notice how any LEGIT scientist still publishes PAPERS that get PEER-REVIEWED. They also have their own Wiki page because fans of their work create them... this guy doesn't appear to have enough fans for a Wiki page, either past or present. (You claim TPTB got rid of his Wiki page? No - he's NEVER had a Wiki page).

Oh, and here's another free tip - the existence of a Wikipedia page doesn't make the US govt lose any sleep!

And there's a million other anti-NASA/moon-hoax/etc people who've never had any problems with 'TPTB' in publishing their web pages. Why only this one guy!? And if he has such a problem why does he have some pages, just not many?

4) The search information delivered to you by Google is customized by algorithms designed by those seeking to tailor your knowledge.

yet the "Norele.com" (huh?) search engine link provided by you provides only honest algorithms? and Bing, Google, Baidu, and every other search engine on the planet has teamed up against this scientist huh?

If he's such a genius scientist who's made such an amazing breakthrough with prime numbers why is he so UNKNOWN to the world of Google/Bing/etc searches? why don't we hear other scientists in an uproar saying "stop censoring this guy, youve gotta hear what he has to say"? Why do we have to use that Norele search engine you linked to that ive never even heard of before in order to find info about him? Why is the entire Earth able to 'censor' his work and 'out to get him'?

Sorry but none of your claims about him make the slightest bit of sense or have any substance. You appear to be head-over-heels about this guy and his claims, yet search engines, Wiki, etc, suggests he's either a fraud, a crackpot, a nobody, or a combination of the three.

Everybody else on the planet with a decent paper to publish has never had a problem publishing it and receiving positive peer reviews, so this guy is a FAILURE ON SOOOO MANY LEVELS!

Anyway, heartbone can you stop hijacking this thread with anti-NASA stuff now and delusions of this quirky scientist nobody in science has ever heard of?
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE DISCOVERY OF WATER ON MARS. Thankyou

[applePi]

note that Lujendra Ojha (21yo), currently pursuing Ph.D. at the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta, is behind the key research suggesting water could be present on the Red Planet.
http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/nepalese ... rs-1223892
http://www.newindianexpress.com/world/N ... 052011.ece
also Mr. Ojha believes in the theory of many universes. usually the young students have more visions than the old and exhausted scientists.

[heartbone]

That's fine if he doesnt use youtube or twitter, but notice how any LEGIT scientist still publishes PAPERS that get PEER-REVIEWED. They also have their own Wiki page because fans of their work create them... this guy doesn't appear to have enough fans for a Wiki page, either past or present. (You claim TPTB got rid of his Wiki page? No - he's NEVER had a Wiki page).

This page should counter your misinformation and don't feel that I need for you to apologize.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... ._McCanney
The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 02:26, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and here's another free tip - the existence of a Wikipedia page doesn't make the US govt lose any sleep!

In my opinion no one should ever pay you for misinformation. Which does open up a few questions in my mind about you speaking for the govt.

And there's a million other anti-NASA/moon-hoax/etc people who've never had any problems with 'TPTB' in publishing their web pages. Why only this one guy!? And if he has such a problem why does he have some pages, just not many?

As I just illustrated, your information is invalid.
Dropping your false "only this one guy" premise, to properly respond...
Could it be, just possibly, maybe this campaign to discredit him derives from
his work including publishing "Calculate Primes"?

yet the "Norele.com" (huh?) search engine link provided by you provides only honest algorithms? and Bing, Google, Baidu, and every other search engine on the planet has teamed up against this scientist huh?

Bad assumptions and misinformation are no basis for a proper reply Keya, try again.

If he's such a genius scientist who's made such an amazing breakthrough with prime numbers why is he so UNKNOWN to the world of Google/Bing/etc searches? why don't we hear other scientists in an uproar saying "stop censoring this guy, youve gotta hear what he has to say"?

Two questions, two answers. The US government spends annually in the HUNDREDS of millions to control the content of the web. To obtain a PhD, one's mind has to be doctored.

Why do we have to use that Norele search engine you linked to that ive never even heard of before in order to find info about him? Why is the entire Earth able to 'censor' his work and 'out to get him'?

Entire Earth? Just because you'd never heard of him???

Sorry but none of your claims about him make the slightest bit of sense or have any substance. You appear to be head-over-heels about this guy and his claims, yet search engines, Wiki, etc, suggests he's either a fraud, a crackpot, a nobody, or a combination of the three.

You are totally wrong about Mr. McCanney, but that is your right.

Everybody else on the planet with a decent paper to publish has never had a problem publishing it and receiving positive peer reviews, so this guy is a FAILURE ON SOOOO MANY LEVELS!

Like your reply.

Anyway, heartbone can you stop hijacking this thread with anti-NASA stuff now and delusions of this quirky scientist nobody in science has ever heard of?
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE DISCOVERY OF WATER ON MARS. Thankyou

No Keya, this thread is about a NASA pronouncement, and until this post so were my replies. Obviously suffering from cognitive dissonance, you don't like my postings, and YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO POST YOUR MISINFORMATION to counter it, just I have the right to counter your disrespectful and false allegations.

If you have something that plays Real Media, do yourself a favor check out his podcast from March 30, 2006 where he mentions both Wikipedia and Mars among many other topics. You might even learn a thing or two. The fabulous VLC media player can play Real Media.

low fidelity: http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/sh03-30-06-3megfile.rm
higher fidelity: http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/sh03-30 ... stsound.rm

[heartbone]

Because we have not been properly educated, what she is communicating seems totally incredible, much like a science-fiction movie.

NASA WAR DOCUMENT * as retrieved from a NASA.GOV website


Surprisingly 1,175 ups, and only 159 downs!

I believe it's too late to actually effectively create a solution against the attacks that she describes, and it's probably time for humanity to move on.

Good luck to all human beings.

* http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/nasa-t ... of-war.pdf