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Re: Update the gadgets and IDE and Form Creator

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:05 pm
by IdeasVacuum
....or the white sheep :mrgreen:

Re: Update the gadgets and IDE and Form Creator

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:13 pm
by blueb
@DK_PETER

Nice sample.. I like it.

Shows how easy it is to roll your own. :D

Re: Update the gadgets and IDE and Form Creator

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:49 pm
by IdeasVacuum
Shows how easy it is to roll your own
....which is another reason why an official PB set of canvas-based gadgets would be great.

SpinGadget() does support SetGadgetColor(), so it's pretty good as-is on Windows OS.

Re: Update the gadgets and IDE and Form Creator

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:05 pm
by moob
PB wrote:> why the numbers of PB is on the right?

Probably to match Mac/Linux. Remember, each gadget in PureBasic
has to be cross-platform and match the other operating systems.
Nothing is Windows-specific unless you force it with API tweaks.

> the Gadgets on PB is not update or added new Gadgets or new functions for years

For the reason I just gave above. They won't be updated to do
things that Mac/Linux gadgets don't support. Just the way it is.

> Need better IDE, better form creator with all Gadgets

Visual Studio is made by the world's biggest software company
with thousands of developers. PureBasic has 2 main developers.
How about cutting them some slack?
@PB

I know PB team is not MS team nor PB is VS.

but what I ask is turn they priority for things really matters in future updates.

3D for me is low priority, no need for now add more things, just focus in adding more functionality to what is already have.

Form creator high priority, gadgets high priority, IDE too.

I'm not a pro in PB and I thing all of us won if PB turn the things more easily without be an pro in windows API, linux or Mac.
IdeasVacuum wrote:
Shows how easy it is to roll your own
....which is another reason why an official PB set of canvas-based gadgets would be great.

SpinGadget() does support SetGadgetColor(), so it's pretty good as-is on Windows OS.
One more thing they need pay attention :D

this what I talk about little things need more functionality.

Re: Update the gadgets and IDE and Form Creator

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:35 pm
by wilbert
PB wrote:For the reason I just gave above. They won't be updated to do
things that Mac/Linux gadgets don't support. Just the way it is.
Windows isn't some sort of superior OS with a lot more capabilities.
There are a lot of things that could be added that can be supported by all three platforms.
Shardik has posted several examples of cross platform solutions.
It's just a matter of choice if things are added or not.

Re: Update the gadgets and IDE and Form Creator

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:49 pm
by eddy
PB wrote:> Hmm, I looked at other apps and they're all left, not right.
So it seems PureBasic is the black sheep of the family here.
How did we miss this detail ? :mrgreen:

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Re: Update the gadgets and IDE and Form Creator

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:32 am
by Fangbeast
eddy wrote:
PB wrote:> Hmm, I looked at other apps and they're all left, not right.
So it seems PureBasic is the black sheep of the family here.
How did we miss this detail ? :mrgreen:

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Is that Idle's sheep or srod's?? (Was going to be ruder but they would both kill me!)

Re: Update the gadgets and IDE and Form Creator

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:43 am
by PB
> Windows isn't some sort of superior OS with a lot more capabilities.

To some extent it is. For example, #ES_RIGHT or whatever it is, is
not supported by TextGadgets because Linux doesn't support it.
Something like that; I can't find the thread discussing it ATM.

Re: Update the gadgets and IDE and Form Creator

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:14 am
by ts-soft
PB wrote:#ES_RIGHT or whatever it is, is
not supported by TextGadgets because Linux doesn't support it.
And windows doesn't support it :D
#SS_RIGHT is for static text like textgadget!

Re: Update the gadgets and IDE and Form Creator

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:33 am
by PB
I did say "whatever it is". :wink:

Re: Update the gadgets and IDE and Form Creator

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:54 pm
by captain_skank
A drive toward PB coded gadgets would be a good thing i think.

It would ceratinly increase the understanding of the canvasgadget and make gadgets have a consistent look and feel across platforms.