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Re: 5.30 advanced usage UTF-8(UNICODE)

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:02 am
by useful
I remain convinced that PB does not claim to be the language of industrial development and in this case the solution of the question of full localization (with the community!!!, with the help and understanding of the team ) is the path of the explosive popularization of language in the world.

Re: 5.30 advanced usage UTF-8(UNICODE)

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:18 am
by plouf
i have to agree with the rest

non english in variables and in core of languange will only produce problems. some languanges need engines to compile (chinese japanese) producing "dots and squares " in the rest of teh word
other uses character NOT available in every font around (greek / russian etc)

furthermore reading a variable called "souvlaki" will not be understable in everyone providing hard to read code !

texct in string should be that way only to provide END USER and ONLY ability for text in its native languange

Re: 5.30 advanced usage UTF-8(UNICODE)

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:01 pm
by heartbone
After the government starts regulating programming and certifying programmers, we'll all have to support everyone's native scripts.
Operations like Fantaisie will be need to support and market close to a hundred versions of their development suite.
The Bassa, braille, and sign language versions will be especially challenging.

Re: 5.30 advanced usage UTF-8(UNICODE)

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:13 pm
by useful
Don't exaggerate.
Enough to allow user macros to be called in unicode(utf-8) and ide [castom keywords - utf-8 and multiple color] everything else interested will make themselves

without this
http://forums.purebasic.com/german/view ... =8&t=27914
I can't repeat for Cyrillic
and forced to use
http://transliteration.eki.ee/
for example

p.s. read the constant mention of the difficulties of publication of the original texts in the national language. Maybe I missed that and purebasic - opensource? If I am interested in publishing, I choose a form convenient for readers. And if not, form convenient for me :)

Re: 5.30 advanced usage UTF-8(UNICODE)

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:36 pm
by BorisTheOld
heartbone wrote:.........braille and sign language versions will be especially challenging.
Actually, with touch screens and hand gestures, we're already well on our way. :)

Re: 5.30 advanced usage UTF-8(UNICODE)

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:44 pm
by useful
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugh_people
according to the 2010 census, there was only one and he is deprived of the right to program in their native language. I am not so seriously raised the topic as it might seem. :D

Re: 5.30 advanced usage UTF-8(UNICODE)

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 6:26 am
by Little John
useful wrote:
without this
http://forums.purebasic.com/german/view ... =8&t=27914
I can't repeat for Cyrillic
and forced to use
http://transliteration.eki.ee/
for example
You can also use e.g. English identifiers in the first place.
You can also write a small pre-processor (e.g. in PB!), that translates your source code (whatever it may be) into valid PB source code.
useful wrote:p.s. read the constant mention of the difficulties of publication of the original texts in the national language. Maybe I missed that and purebasic - opensource? If I am interested in publishing, I choose a form convenient for readers. And if not, form convenient for me :)
Sorry, I don't understand what this means.

Re: 5.30 advanced usage UTF-8(UNICODE)

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:05 am
by useful
Little John wrote: ...You can also write a small pre-processor....
Оf course you can, but native ide pb, it becomes useless to me

Re: 5.30 advanced usage UTF-8(UNICODE)

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:09 am
by Little John
useful wrote:
Little John wrote: ...You can also write a small pre-processor....
Оf course you can, but native ide pb, it becomes useless to me
Such a pre-processor can be integrated seamlessly as a tool in the PB IDE.

Re: 5.30 advanced usage UTF-8(UNICODE)

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:13 am
by useful
Little John wrote:...
useful wrote:p.s. read the constant mention of the difficulties of publication of the original texts in the national language. Maybe I missed that and purebasic - opensource? If I am interested in publishing, I choose a form convenient for readers. And if not, form convenient for me :)
Sorry, I don't understand what this means.
I mean, what if I do not plan to publish the source texts, their language is only important for me. But if I plan to show them to someone, then I will naturally represent them in the form convenient for the recipient

Re: 5.30 advanced usage UTF-8(UNICODE)

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:16 am
by useful
Little John wrote:
useful wrote:
Little John wrote: ...You can also write a small pre-processor....
Оf course you can, but native ide pb, it becomes useless to me
Such a pre-processor can be integrated seamlessly as a tool in the PB IDE.
I understand, but how to be with syntax coloring and other amenities