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charvista wrote: I was wondering why PB is not concentrating to Windows only, as it is the most important OS, and then use VMWare or equivalent to run it on the other Operating Systems?

crazy_guy wrote: Hi guys, this is a little utility I wrote with PB, it runs on windows and now on linux too!
It's an enhanced version of ping, hope you like it !
NOTE: on linux you need a virtual machine and a guest windows OS to run it.

Guys ? Guys ? Wait ! Where are you going ?

Probably the reason lies there.

Well,

Maybe its an idea to open source the Linux part and let the community do all the fixes.

DoctorLove wrote: Maybe its an idea to open source the Linux part and let the community do all the fixes.

It's also an idea to do not such a thing considering PB is a commercial closed source product in active development.

Also I'm quite sure Fred likes to keep full control of it (understandably), and once the cat is out of the bag you can't put it back (forks, modifications taking an unwanted direction, derivative works, etc.)

And most of all, an idea of this kind can only come from Fred himself, asking for it, even suggesting it, it's really unfathomable in my opinion.

Luis wrote:
Probably the reason lies there.

Yes, I agree that this is PureBasic's big advantage.
However, the problem is that I have already many Window API's in my PB code (from code snippets gathered from the forum, especially from Rashad!), so I cannot use them under Linux or Mac. That's why I am staying forever on Windows. Only with VMWare, WINE or equivalent, I could run it on the other OSes.

Many people are complaining about Windows 8 for many reasons, but Windows is still a high quality product.

luis wrote:

DoctorLove wrote: Maybe its an idea to open source the Linux part and let the community do all the fixes.

It's also an idea to do not such a thing considering PB is a commercial closed source product in active development.

Also I'm quite sure Fred likes to keep full control of it (understandably), and once the cat is out of the bag you can't put it back (forks, modifications taking an unwanted direction, derivative works, etc.)

And most of all, an idea of this kind can only come from Fred himself, asking for it, even suggesting it, it's really unfathomable in my opinion.

Sure thing, so we as a community can only sit here and watch?
I think the need is there that others can help fred. He is not alone.

DoctorLove wrote: Sure thing, so we as a community can only sit here and watch?

Don't know about you.
I use it, sometimes I try to help someone else, sometime I share some code.
That's how things usually work in user communities orbiting around any commercial product.
I just don't go in their forum asking to make it open source. I don't even ask for the source if someone post a library here.
It's not my call.

I think the need is there that others can help fred. He is not alone.

He's not trapped in a burning car. Maybe he wants to be alone (*)
I don't understand why you assume he wants to be helped and wants to share code from his project with you.
And then there is the cat. Already happened with the IDE -> http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... 18#p373018

(*) not really alone since he can count on Freak

luis wrote:

DoctorLove wrote: Sure thing, so we as a community can only sit here and watch?

Don't know about you.
I use it, sometimes I try to help someone else, sometime I share some code.
That's how things usually work in user communities orbiting around any commercial product.
I just don't go in their forum asking to make it open source. I don't even ask for the source if someone post a library here.
It's not my call.

I think the need is there that others can help fred. He is not alone.

He's not trapped in a burning car. Maybe he wants to be alone (*)
I don't understand why you assume he wants to be helped and wants to share code from his project with you.
And then there is the cat. Already happened with the IDE -> http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... 18#p373018

(*) not really alone since he can count on Freak

Luis, i use it too. There is nothing deeply wrong with Purebasic, as you are really defending the thing.
And no, i dont ask for source code, just a way to help each other. Nothing more.

*Sigh*

DoctorLove wrote: Maybe its an idea to open source the Linux part and let the community do all the fixes.

DoctorLove wrote: i dont ask for source code

A open source approach but without source code. I don't see this thing getting much traction.

I agree on the *sigh* part tough

I think PureBasic is written in C, but PureBasic could now be translated in pure PureBasic