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Re: If i had 1000 € to offer for a PB feature...
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:20 pm
by Fred
Re: If i had 1000 € to offer for a PB feature...
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:45 pm
by Tenaja
srod wrote:freak wrote:Sure you can get your own personalized PB version. But you have to add more zeroes to that number

How about 0001000 € then?

Good one, srod!
How about this one...
ob0001000
Re: If i had 1000 € to offer for a PB feature...
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:12 pm
by PMV
oh srod, you know that he means behind!
what about up to 7 more zeros just for the PB team?

1000
0000000(2) €
Re: If i had 1000 € to offer for a PB feature...
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:20 pm
by Primoz128
PMV wrote:oh srod, you know that he means behind!
what about up to 7 more zeros just for the PB team?

1000
0000000(2) €
This one is the legendary xD
Re: If i had 1000 € to offer for a PB feature...
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:24 am
by Zach
I'm curious, what leads you to believe changing an entire programming languages Syntax is easy work, only worth the pitiful sum of €1,000 ?
Re: If i had 1000 € to offer for a PB feature...
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:33 am
by xorc1zt
Zach wrote:I'm curious, what leads you to believe changing an entire programming languages Syntax is easy work, only worth the pitiful sum of €1,000 ?
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#include <stdio.h>
#define CHECK(statement) if(statement){
#define ENDCHECK }
#define WITH (
#define IS
#define BEGIN ){
#define PONG return
#define PROCEDURE
#define ENDPROCEDURE }
#define NONE void
PROCEDURE float IS RetFloat WITH
float a,
float b
BEGIN
CHECK(a > b)
PONG a - b;
ENDCHECK
PONG a + b;
ENDPROCEDURE
PROCEDURE int IS main WITH
NONE
BEGIN
printf("returned %f\n", RetFloat(4,5));
//---------------------------------
//-------------- END --------------
//---------------------------------
printf("\n\n *** press any key to exit ***");
getchar();
PONG 0;
ENDPROCEDURE

Re: If i had 1000 € to offer for a PB feature...
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:45 am
by Primoz128
Zach wrote:I'm curious, what leads you to believe changing an entire programming languages Syntax is easy work, only worth the pitiful sum of €1,000 ?
You seriously don't understand a joke, or curiosity. Fred could have done it for free if he wanted it's not like he has to make an entire language from scratch .
And no i don't know how much it takes for a syntax to be done, but i did see quite a massive collection of programing languages on the wiki, which gives the impression that it's not hard at all.
Re: If i had 1000 € to offer for a PB feature...
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:59 am
by srod
Depends how the compiler is organised, but I doubt very much that it would be a simple task.
If the compiler generated some kind of intermediate code then you could imagine that you might well be able to switch the 'front end' of the compiler without too much fuss (though writing a new front-end wouldn't necessarily be a simple task in itself!)
But, a dump truck load of cash aside for the moment, why would Fred want to alter the syntax of PB? It's his baby after all. It is what it is and is the way that Fred intended it to be.
Now if you were to drive this dump truck load of cash to my house (and leave me the keys) then I'd have a crack at modifying the syntax for you. Heck, I'd pull a Higgs Boson out of my butt for a dump truck load of cash!

Re: If i had 1000 € to offer for a PB feature...
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:22 pm
by TI-994A
freak wrote:Sure you can get your own personalized PB version. But you have to add more zeroes to that number

Well said!
Re: If i had 1000 € to offer for a PB feature...
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:59 pm
by Seymour Clufley
Can't you just write a preprocessor?
Re: If i had 1000 € to offer for a PB feature...
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:38 pm
by Tenaja
Primoz128 wrote:I shall organise my brain ... wait for it...
Uh oh... i had a change of hearts... i LOVE PB Syntax now !!! >,> silly me didn't go trough tutorials thoroughly.
So, what aspect did you miss, and now suddenly understand?
Re: If i had 1000 € to offer for a PB feature...
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:29 pm
by Zach
I think it was the part where he says something that makes sense.
Re: If i had 1000 € to offer for a PB feature...
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:54 pm
by endo
I'm ok with Basic syntax. But to be honest I should say putting "basic" into the name of the language make it less valueable for many. We can simply say we don't need them, right, but even my boss says "why do you use basic?" and he ashame to tell to customters that we use a Basic language..
I already know that it IS silly, but I'm sure if the name was P# or something without "basic", it would be more popular, respectful.
And we wouldn't hear that "oh you did this game using a game maker?" -NO! Purebasic is much more lower level than C# or Java or Flash, almost as C. But just because of the "basic" in the name some/many people never use it.
Re: If i had 1000 € to offer for a PB feature...
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:28 pm
by Danilo
endo wrote:But just because of the "basic" in the name some/many people never use it.
PureBasic offers just basic, simple things. So the "basic" in the name is 100% correct.
PB supports only pure basic things for the platforms Windows, Linux, MacOS.
Even selecting a specific text in a string or editor gadget, or getting the selection and selected text,
is not supported cross-platform, so "basic" is already a very good description because PureBasic, in reality,
does not support the most basic things. It is just logic why not more people use pure basic things.
Re: If i had 1000 € to offer for a PB feature...
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:47 pm
by endo
The "basic" in the name is not there because it is basic or not. It is there because it is a BASIC-clone language. It stands for BASIC-Language not for being basic.
And the problem is people ashame to use BASIC languages (languages based on Basic, sytax etc.) doesn't matter how fast/powerful/low level it is. Because BASIC was always slow, high level (incapable of doing low level things) it was like it is for kids to learn programming (I'm talking about 80s), but the feeling about BASIC is still like that.
Normally it is not a problem, I'm happy with it and I'm using it, but it keeps other communities and people away and it affects the populatiry.
Silly but it is.