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Re: What Operating System do you develop for? Small poll...
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:10 pm
by mariosk8s
*1= Multiple answers are allowed.
*2 = Only one answer allowed. If you have more, please choose the most important one.
Please try to keep the format for easy analyzing.
Operating System(s) I develop for: *1
[x] Windows
[x] Linux
[ ] Mac OS
My programming intention: *1
[ ] private / hobby (non public / for your own needs only)
[ ] public internet (freeware / open source)
[x] public internet (shareware / offer small licences)
[x] public commercial (commercial and professional products with appreciable price)
My PureBasic satisfaction on functionality and quality: *2
[ ] fully satisfied
[ ] medium satisfied, but I think some points are still missing or insufficient
[x] it's ok for me, but I know there are some real issues
[ ] I'm completely dissatisfied
I would like to see PureBasic-team focusing more on: *2
[ ] game development functions (game engines, better or more graphics and sound)
[ ] application development functions (more professional gadgets, deeper functionality, more OS integration)
[ ] cross plattform functionality (both language and development environment)
[ ] quality enhancements (more and faster bugfixes are prior to new functions)
[ ] making PureBasic Open Source
[ ] speed enhancement (making PB programs faster)
[ ] supporting more plattforms (like iOS, Android etc.)
[x] other (one point only: _Better GUI Abstraction____________)
Re: What Operating System do you develop for? Small poll...
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:07 pm
by Tenaja
Kukulkan wrote:Hello,
I'm very interested in the answer for some of my questions about PureBasic. I follow some forum threads here and I'm just curious about the opinion of more members than just the ones in such discussions. Please help to get a better overview.
As I'm missing polling functions, please copy the following form and simply mark your answers.
Thank you
*1= Multiple answers are allowed.
*2 = Only one answer allowed. If you have more, please choose the most important one.
Please try to keep the format for easy analyzing.
Operating System(s) I develop for: *1
[x ] Windows
[x ] Linux
[x ] Mac OS
My programming intention: *1
[ ] private / hobby (non public / for your own needs only)
[ ] public internet (freeware / open source)
[ ] public internet (shareware / offer small licences)
[x ] public commercial (commercial and professional products with appreciable price)
My PureBasic satisfaction on functionality and quality: *2
[ ] fully satisfied
[x ] medium satisfied, but I think some points are still missing or insufficient
[ ] it's ok for me, but I know there are some real issues
[ ] I'm completely dissatisfied
I would like to see PureBasic-team focusing more on: *2
[ ] game development functions (game engines, better or more graphics and sound)
[ ] application development functions (more professional gadgets, deeper functionality, more OS integration)
[ ] cross plattform functionality (both language and development environment)
[ ] quality enhancements (more and faster bugfixes are prior to new functions)
[ ] making PureBasic Open Source
[x ] speed enhancement (making PB programs faster)
[ ] supporting more plattforms (like iOS, Android etc.)
[ ] other (one point only: _____________________________)
Currently, I have only developed for Win, but the whole reason I sought out PB instead of using PowerBasic was because I want the option for cross-platform.
Re: What Operating System do you develop for? Small poll...
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:01 pm
by idle
Operating System(s) I develop for: *1
[X] Windows
[X] Linux
[ ] Mac OS
My programming intention: *1
[X] private / hobby (non public / for your own needs only)
[X] public internet (freeware / open source)
[X] public internet (shareware / offer small licences)
[ ] public commercial (commercial and professional products with appreciable price)
My PureBasic satisfaction on functionality and quality: *2
[ ] fully satisfied
[X] medium satisfied, but I think some points are still missing or insufficient
[ ] it's ok for me, but I know there are some real issues
[ ] I'm completely dissatisfied
I would like to see PureBasic-team focusing more on: *2
[ ] game development functions (game engines, better or more graphics and sound)
[ ] application development functions (more professional gadgets, deeper functionality, more OS integration)
[ ] cross plattform functionality (both language and development environment)
[ ] quality enhancements (more and faster bugfixes are prior to new functions)
[ ] making PureBasic Open Source
[ ] speed enhancement (making PB programs faster)
[X] supporting more plattforms (like iOS, Android etc.)
[ ] other (one point only: _____________________________)
I'd really like to see PB targeting llvm, it would result in much better assembly and open up
the development to any platform.
Re: What Operating System do you develop for? Small poll...
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:31 am
by c4s
Operating System(s) I develop for: *1
[x] Windows
[ ] Linux
[ ] Mac OS
My programming intention: *1
[x] private / hobby (non public / for your own needs only)
[x] public internet (freeware / open source)
[x] public internet (shareware / offer small licences)
[x] public commercial (commercial and professional products with appreciable price)
My PureBasic satisfaction on functionality and quality: *2
[x] fully satisfied
[ ] medium satisfied, but I think some points are still missing or insufficient
[ ] it's ok for me, but I know there are some real issues
[ ] I'm completely dissatisfied
I would like to see PureBasic-team focusing more on: *2
[ ] game development functions (game engines, better or more graphics and sound)
[x] application development functions (more professional gadgets, deeper functionality, more OS integration)
[ ] cross plattform functionality (both language and development environment)
[ ] quality enhancements (more and faster bugfixes are prior to new functions)
[ ] making PureBasic Open Source
[ ] speed enhancement (making PB programs faster)
[ ] supporting more plattforms (like iOS, Android etc.)
[ ] other (one point only: _____________________________)
...Aaaaand - someone had to do it
- I merged all the current votes (including mine) but ignored incorrect ones:
Operating System(s) I develop for: *1
[25] Windows
[10] Linux
[08] Mac OS
My programming intention: *1
[20] private / hobby (non public / for your own needs only)
[09] public internet (freeware / open source)
[07] public internet (shareware / offer small licences)
[13] public commercial (commercial and professional products with appreciable price)
My PureBasic satisfaction on functionality and quality: *2
[08] fully satisfied
[12] medium satisfied, but I think some points are still missing or insufficient
[06] it's ok for me, but I know there are some real issues
[00] I'm completely dissatisfied
I would like to see PureBasic-team focusing more on: *2
[01] game development functions (game engines, better or more graphics and sound)
[06] application development functions (more professional gadgets, deeper functionality, more OS integration)
[02] cross plattform functionality (both language and development environment)
[07] quality enhancements (more and faster bugfixes are prior to new functions)
[00] making PureBasic Open Source
[02] speed enhancement (making PB programs faster)
[01] supporting more plattforms (like iOS, Android etc.)
[04] other (one point only: _____________________________)
--improve the compiler and stop bothering around too much with adding new libraries...
--visual designer (forms) and close integration with it
--Application Productivity: Proper GUI editor with full GUI-to-Code integration. Building and maintaining full gui apps is a pain
--Better GUI Abstraction
By the way: There are external poll platforms. I remember a pretty good one from Google, but don't know the name anymore. It has graphical reports and stuff. Maybe we should try it there again?!
Edit:
Added moogle and ts-soft.
Edit2:
Added Little John, wilbert, Erlend, marc_256, einander and jamirokwai.
Re: What Operating System do you develop for? Small poll...
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:05 am
by moogle
Kukulkan wrote:
*1= Multiple answers are allowed.
*2 = Only one answer allowed. If you have more, please choose the most important one.
Please try to keep the format for easy analyzing.
Operating System(s) I develop for: *1
[x] Windows
[ ] Linux
[ ] Mac OS
My programming intention: *1
[x] private / hobby (non public / for your own needs only)
[ ] public internet (freeware / open source)
[ ] public internet (shareware / offer small licences)
[ ] public commercial (commercial and professional products with appreciable price)
My PureBasic satisfaction on functionality and quality: *2
[ ] fully satisfied
[ ] medium satisfied, but I think some points are still missing or insufficient
[x] it's ok for me, but I know there are some real issues
[ ] I'm completely dissatisfied
I would like to see PureBasic-team focusing more on: *2
[ ] game development functions (game engines, better or more graphics and sound)
[ ] application development functions (more professional gadgets, deeper functionality, more OS integration)
[ ] cross plattform functionality (both language and development environment)
[x] quality enhancements (more and faster bugfixes are prior to new functions)
[ ] making PureBasic Open Source
[ ] speed enhancement (making PB programs faster)
[ ] supporting more plattforms (like iOS, Android etc.)
[ ] other (one point only: _____________________________)
Re: What Operating System do you develop for? Small poll...
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:13 am
by ts-soft
Operating System(s) I develop for: *1
[x] Windows
[x] Linux
[ ] Mac OS
My programming intention: *1
[x] private / hobby (non public / for your own needs only)
[x] public internet (freeware / open source)
[ ] public internet (shareware / offer small licences)
[ ] public commercial (commercial and professional products with appreciable price)
My PureBasic satisfaction on functionality and quality: *2
[ ] fully satisfied
[x] medium satisfied, but I think some points are still missing or insufficient
[ ] it's ok for me, but I know there are some real issues
[ ] I'm completely dissatisfied
I would like to see PureBasic-team focusing more on: *2
[ ] game development functions (game engines, better or more graphics and sound)
[x] application development functions (more professional gadgets, deeper functionality, more OS integration)
[ ] cross plattform functionality (both language and development environment)
[ ] quality enhancements (more and faster bugfixes are prior to new functions)
[ ] making PureBasic Open Source
[ ] speed enhancement (making PB programs faster)
[ ] supporting more plattforms (like iOS, Android etc.)
[ ] other (one point only: _____________________________)
Re: What Operating System do you develop for? Small poll...
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:57 am
by Little John
*1= Multiple answers are allowed.
*2 = Only one answer allowed. If you have more, please choose the most important one.
Please try to keep the format for easy analyzing.
Operating System(s) I develop for: *1
[x] Windows
[x] Linux
[ ] Mac OS
My programming intention: *1
[x] private / hobby (non public / for your own needs only)
[x] public internet (freeware / open source)
[ ] public internet (shareware / offer small licences)
[ ] public commercial (commercial and professional products with appreciable price)
My PureBasic satisfaction on functionality and quality: *2
[ ] fully satisfied
[x] medium satisfied, but I think some points are still missing or insufficient
[ ] it's ok for me, but I know there are some real issues
[ ] I'm completely dissatisfied
I would like to see PureBasic-team focusing more on: *2
[ ] game development functions (game engines, better or more graphics and sound)
[ ] application development functions (more professional gadgets, deeper functionality, more OS integration)
[ ] cross plattform functionality (both language and development environment)
[x] quality enhancements (more and faster bugfixes are prior to new functions)
[ ] making PureBasic Open Source
[ ] speed enhancement (making PB programs faster)
[ ] supporting more plattforms (like iOS, Android etc.)
[ ] other (one point only: _____________________________)
Re: What Operating System do you develop for? Small poll...
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:30 am
by Kukulkan
Thanks c4s for the quick summary. But I think it is too early. Maybe some more reports are comming?
At the end, we may discuss the results. So far (with no rating at all), there seem to be more Linux developers than MacOS developers. Furthermore, there seem to be a large amount of users doing real business with PB software (like me, too). Upon this, it is important to notice, that no one asked about more game-development. Instead, a lot of people are asking about more application development functions or better quality. Also interesting to see, that most users are fully or medium satisfied (>75%) so far. That are good news I think.
Important to say, that this may change, if more people are filling the form.
Please wait with discussion until more results are available.
Thank you!
Kukulkan
Re: What Operating System do you develop for? Small poll...
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:40 am
by wilbert
Kukulkan wrote:Operating System(s) I develop for: *1
[X] Windows
[ ] Linux
[X] Mac OS
My programming intention: *1
[X] private / hobby (non public / for your own needs only)
[ ] public internet (freeware / open source)
[ ] public internet (shareware / offer small licences)
[ ] public commercial (commercial and professional products with appreciable price)
My PureBasic satisfaction on functionality and quality: *2
[ ] fully satisfied
[X] medium satisfied, but I think some points are still missing or insufficient
[ ] it's ok for me, but I know there are some real issues
[ ] I'm completely dissatisfied
I would like to see PureBasic-team focusing more on: *2
[ ] game development functions (game engines, better or more graphics and sound)
[ ] application development functions (more professional gadgets, deeper functionality, more OS integration)
[ ] cross plattform functionality (both language and development environment)
[X] quality enhancements (more and faster bugfixes are prior to new functions)
[ ] making PureBasic Open Source
[ ] speed enhancement (making PB programs faster)
[ ] supporting more plattforms (like iOS, Android etc.)
[ ] other (one point only: _____________________________)
Remark :
It's not strange there are more Linux developers compared to OS X.
OS X requires an Apple computer while Windows and Linux can run on every PC.
It's very easy to have Linux as an additional installation inside VirtualBox.
Re: What Operating System do you develop for? Small poll...
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:52 am
by ts-soft
@wilbert
MacOS runs on the same machines as windows or linux
Also in a virtualbox, but it is not allowed to do this.
Re: What Operating System do you develop for? Small poll...
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:06 pm
by wilbert
I thought OS X requred EFI
An interesting question might be if PB wouldn't contain one license for all platforms, what platforms would you get a license for.
While I have compiled some things for Linux to test cross platform capability, I wouldn't get a separate license for it if it were required.
Re: What Operating System do you develop for? Small poll...
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:34 pm
by ts-soft
wilbert wrote:I thought OS X requred EFI
Virtualbox support EFI, but is not required!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSccKg64Hcg
Re: What Operating System do you develop for? Small poll...
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:38 pm
by moogle
Kukulkan wrote:Upon this, it is important to notice, that no one asked about more game-development. Instead, a lot of people are asking about more application development functions or better quality.
When I read about PureBasic, I thought of it more as an application developing program rather than a games one like BlitzBasic/BlitzMax. I mean you could still make a game with it but by using other engines/libs.
The past few updates though have been mainly game oriented though.
Re: What Operating System do you develop for? Small poll...
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:18 pm
by Kukulkan
Kukulkan wrote:Please wait with discussion until more results are available.
Re: What Operating System do you develop for? Small poll...
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:29 pm
by Erlend
Operating System(s) I develop for: *1
[X] Windows
[X] Linux
[X] Mac OS
My programming intention: *1
[X] private / hobby (non public / for your own needs only)
[ ] public internet (freeware / open source)
[ ] public internet (shareware / offer small licences)
[X] public commercial (commercial and professional products with appreciable price)
My PureBasic satisfaction on functionality and quality: *2
[ ] fully satisfied
[X] medium satisfied, but I think some points are still missing or insufficient
[ ] it's ok for me, but I know there are some real issues
[ ] I'm completely dissatisfied
I would like to see PureBasic-team focusing more on: *2
[ ] game development functions (game engines, better or more graphics and sound)
[ ] application development functions (more professional gadgets, deeper functionality, more OS integration)
[X] cross plattform functionality (both language and development environment)
[X] quality enhancements (more and faster bugfixes are prior to new functions)
[ ] making PureBasic Open Source
[ ] speed enhancement (making PB programs faster)
[ ] supporting more plattforms (like iOS, Android etc.)
[ ] other (one point only: _____________________________)