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Polo wrote:No, no specs, he just told me what he wants, but I can't go in details unfortunately.

Then you won't get an estimate.

Polo wrote:Easier on a web app, probably, accurate, reliable and fast when there is more than 1000 items that can be moved/resized, I'm not sure.

Sounds like a UI that has'nt been thought out properly.

Blood wrote:Then you won't get an estimate.

Sure he will. I'll do it for £10000.

srod wrote:

Blood wrote:Then you won't get an estimate.

Sure he will. I'll do it for £10000.

Good price ... if it is a project for a month ...
... but if it is for one year or more?
I will come to you, when i need help for a big project

Good point.

PMV wrote:

srod wrote:

Blood wrote:Then you won't get an estimate.

Sure he will. I'll do it for £10000.

Good price ... if it is a project for a month ...
... but if it is for one year or more?
I will come to you, when i need help for a big project

Hardly gonna be a month project, based on what he wants I estimated it a 6 months work, minimum. I cant go in details, again.

I understand why you can't give me an estimate,e ven if I only needed a very rough one, I can't be precise on his project unfortunately!
Thanks all for your comments!

If it's 6 months full-time work then, well, it's likely going to be quite expensive depending on the level of expertise/experience required. If it can be done part-time... cheaper to find some talented student perhaps?

My offer of £10000 still stands mind; although that is my daily rate!

srod wrote:My offer of £10000 still stands mind; although that is my daily rate!

in addition to the price of the finished application (which would probably be more a function of the amount of the coder's time expended than the complexity of the code itself, directly) what level of support does the company expect, and for how long?

sure it might take 6 months to code the project, but if something needs to be tweaked/fixed/rewritten down the track, how will that be handled?

as a ballpark figure, I'd consider anything less than $30,000 for 6 months of my time as not worth it - double that and I'd be happy to code it and support it for another 12 months

How much for the sound track.

Here in the USA, you should expect to pay at least $150,000 USD for something like this to be created.

He would be better off finding an off-the-shelf solution which would cost $500-$2500 USD. Some of the solutions are highly customizable.

Sounds like I'm getting what I want after all!
Thanks for the rough prices Kuron and citystate!

(BTW he's already using an existing solution, but he's not satisfied w/ what is offered on the market)

If it is 6 month, i would say it is -as a full time job (8-10h/day)- round about 25.000 Euro.
25.000 Euro * 1.4 = US$ 35,000.

If he is a developer, he can do it himself. If he isn't a developer, how should he
know it takes 6 month to develop this application?
What you have told does not sound like a full time job for 6 month. Maybe a
hobby project for 6 month, so it could be half the price or less.
Checking more existing products and prices would be the best for a start imho.
The app he is using doesn't satisfy him, but there are many apps available,
just try some other product demos/trials.

Spinning off this six months thing. I work full time (*2 most of the time) as a developer and I really hate myself any time I give someone an estimate on time. Last project I estimated six weeks, but had to rethink so much it took close to a year. Its extremely difficult, especially on larger projects, to estimate time... Also keep in mind once your product is out it just goes into a different phase. Its nothing you can just leave behind - support - changed in windows - etc etc...

using the tried and true formula, double the number and increment the time scale (days>weeks, weeks>months), that 6 week estimate rounding out as 12 months is spot on

citystate wrote:double the number and increment the time scale (days>weeks, weeks>months)

lol, need to remember that.