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Zach wrote:

Ramihyn_ wrote:I honestly dont know why in 2011 you would use a programming environment which restricts your work to one or max. two platforms when just the mobile market already has at least 5. Not to mention PC, linux, Mac OS X, web (html5 or others).

In 2007 you may not have had much of a choice, but in 2011 you certainly do.

For the same reason PC game developers continually focus on x86/Windows platforms, and not Linux/Apple for PC games. Because that is the dominant product in the market. Android is heavily advertised as an alternative to Apples iPhone. Apple already has a strong hold on the mobile apps market, but Google/Android hope to break that or at least compete reasonably well.

If this is about making money with apps or even with games, this choice would be even worse. The IOS market is financially what the PC market for games is (compared to Linux/Mac OS). Android has the numbers, but Apple (IOS) has the paying consumer market. Even top titles like "angry birds" are going "for free"* on the android market, because the users simply expect it that way.

I am using SDK's for smartphone/pad development for 2 years now, i would love to focus on android, but i have to target IOS because thats where (currently) the money is, no matter if i like or dislike Apple

And porting games from Windows to Linux/Mac OS X is a whole different beast compared to targetting IOS/Android/Symbian/WebOS/Windows Phone etc. but it would completely derail this thread to discuss that.

Zach wrote:Limiting things to one platform is not always a negative. If you have decent marketshare for your target platform to work with, then you have a fair chance of broadly appealing to a narrow audience, as oppose to barely appealing to a broad audience.

That doesnt make sense, but even if for some weird reason you want to limit yourself to one platform, you can still do that by just not exporting to the other platforms.



* i know they are using ingame ad's to get some money

Ramihyn_ wrote:I honestly dont know why in 2011 you would use a programming environment which restricts your work to one or max. two platforms when just the mobile market already has at least 5. Not to mention PC, linux, Mac OS X, web (html5 or others).

In 2007 you may not have had much of a choice, but in 2011 you certainly do.

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Ironically, the title of this thread is Android Basic (introductory offer).

It is about Andriod.
It is about Basic.
And it is about an introductory offer.

Ramihyn, you have already contradicted yourself - you derailed this thread.

Ramihyn_ wrote:If this is about making money with apps or even with games, this choice would be even worse. The IOS market is financially what the PC market for games is (compared to Linux/Mac OS). Android has the numbers, but Apple (IOS) has the paying consumer market. Even top titles like "angry birds" are going "for free"* on the android market, because the users simply expect it that way.

* i know they are using ingame ad's to get some money

Misinformation! Or a case of empty vessel making the most noise?

The real reason from Rovio themselves:

http://www.rovio.com/index.php?mact=Blo ... eturnid=58

csk wrote:http://www.rovio.com/index.php?mact=Blo ... eturnid=58

You can read it from the Rovio chef himself here:

http://www.golem.de/1012/80375.html

But this has nothing to do with what i said in my initial posting in this thread.

Ramihyn_ wrote:I honestly dont know why in 2011 you would use a programming environment which restricts your work to one or max. two platforms when just the mobile market already has at least 5. Not to mention PC, linux, Mac OS X, web (html5 or others).

In 2007 you may not have had much of a choice, but in 2011 you certainly do.

Most people simply dont know about other more universal solutions, thats why i mentioned it.

Ramihyn_ wrote:

csk wrote:http://www.rovio.com/index.php?mact=Blo ... eturnid=58

You can read it from the Rovio chef himself here:

http://www.golem.de/1012/80375.html

But this has nothing to do with what i said in my initial posting in this thread.

Ramihyn_ wrote:I honestly dont know why in 2011 you would use a programming environment which restricts your work to one or max. two platforms when just the mobile market already has at least 5. Not to mention PC, linux, Mac OS X, web (html5 or others).

In 2007 you may not have had much of a choice, but in 2011 you certainly do.

Most people simply dont know about other more universal solutions, thats why i mentioned it.

Well, there you go again with misinformation. The link you gave is someone else claiming Peter Verterbacka said certain things but he/she never gave the full information. This is the problem with misinformation.

The full information is from Peter Verterbacka himself and this is what he actually said:

http://technmarketing.com/2010/12/peter ... nd-palmhp/

You see, when you get the real full information, it does not give the same picture than the previously preconceived one.

If you have forgotten what you said, this is what you said:

"Even top titles like "angry birds" are going "for free"* on the android market, because the users simply expect it that way."

You attributed this to Peter Verterbacka. Please show where he said this? Please show concrete proof that he said android users simply expect andriod apps to be free. And please don't twist and try to misinform again.

By the way:

Your first post has got to do with what you posted later about not derailing this thread. This is your own contradiction. You derailed this thread yet claiming later not wanting to derail it.

<... snip ...> reply self censored to not derail this further

Sorry Foz, you are of cause right with that.

Could both of you please take your arguments to private messages please?

If people want multiplatform development, then they may suggest something or request for peoples knowledge about something.

In this case, someone has suggested a platform and language that appeals to me, and I for one am grateful for it.

And on that note, here's my coupon for others! : bqiznw

~ Foz

I have used this androidbasic for a few weeks. Quite simple to use and lotz of examples on the web. The part i don't like is how libraries etc are mananged but i see that using the forum is an ok way to give people access..

Had to use some time to not think like PureBasic when programming but i'm quite pleased that i bought this software.
Now i want a similar product so that i can make something for iphone/ipad thing.

The only thing with PureBasic and B4A is that i did not buy it earlier.

So maybe someone can make a PB to B4A script

BTW: my coupon code is: bhqkex

If anyone is interested, I've got a coupon code too: alrhcc

Btw I have to say: I've bought B4A in June and pretty fast I got some small stuff working. It feels on Android, as PureBasic feels on Windows/Linux to me. The forum is very active and you get help really fast! Same as here, just a different dialect/platform.

B4A: +1

Just picked this up yesterday. I'm posting my discount code, not for the free yearly updates, but it sometimes prompts people to give something a try, when it's 50% off. It did for me, I used a code from this very thread.

My code is : bjjhcm

Looking forward to playing with this over the weekend.

Incase someone needs a new coupon code : bxjkjq , what a great RAD!

asifmatey wrote:
I have owned if for a year, it`s like PB if you want to develop quickly easily its the choice. eclipse and java are like c c++ writing 10 lines of code and spending 2 months debugging it. sorry, seriously it very quick easy to develop and a couple of clicks and your apps are installed to the device.

The only downside for me is the Library system. in general its as easy as PB to install new library's. but unlike PB documentation for the commands are not an F1 away plus you also have to implicitly include the lib's you are using in the lib's panel to the lower right via a checkbox.

but all in all 99% the business

AsifMatey

Interesting.
I got too busy to get around to using / learning eclipse with either Java or C. Thing is for me now is that I have recently been speaking with the owner of a software development company who writes security software regarding an idea I have for an android app that would directly link end users to their servers. They have now a week or so ago downloaded the SDK from the Android dev site to experiment with & I am invited to help in debugging, testing, etc with this app despite my lack of knowledge in Android. So it looks like I will have little choice other than eclipse & Java. ( I know very little of Java, which is why I was originally thinking of the C version.)

Hi

I'm looking to take the plunge on this and rather than just get a coupon code off the net, am wondering if anyone has a recent code they would like me to use?

Regardless, I'll post a code here when I purchase it, assuming they still offer them

oldBear wrote:Hi

I'm looking to take the plunge on this and rather than just get a coupon code off the net, am wondering if anyone has a recent code they would like me to use?

Regardless, I'll post a code here when I purchase it, assuming they still offer them

not sure if mine has been used: bhqkex

KGB_X wrote: not sure if mine has been used: bhqkex

Worked fine, thanks. I'll post mine, if I receive one.

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