djes wrote:I think nobody there got the point.
Nobody is a big word! Almost like always and never.
djes wrote:
Ok, there's still some little things to enhance/correct, but... It will be done!
The same exact pattern we already saw with the first iphone.
There were hordes of "fail!" comments about the edge only, about the missing copy and paste, etc, etc, etc. and a endless list of iphone "killers" (where are they? what was their name ? how successfull was their app store ? how many apps they have ? what kind of apps ? and in the future ?)
Now we know how it's ended. Not ended really, we have a third generation iphone now and a 4th will be probably out soon. Apple bought PA semi in 2008 and I bet you'll see the impact of that in the next generations' products.
This is the 1st iPad generation. And it can count on a lot more behind him than the iPhone when it came out.
Was iphone a success ? Yes. It's apple successful ? Yes. Isn't the first reason of existence of a company like Apple to be profitable ? Yes. Are there many iphone / ipod users enthusiast of their products ? Yes !
Mission accomplished in my book.
Some
predictions with names and all about the iPhone:
"[iPhone] just doesn't matter anymore. There are now alternatives to the iPhone, which has been introduced everywhere else in the world. It's no longer a novelty." - Eamon Hoey, Hoey and Associates, April 30, 2008
"We are not at all worried. We think we've got the one mobile platform you'll use for the rest of your life. [Apple] are not going to catch up." - Scott Rockfeld, Microsoft Mobile Communications Group Product Manager, April 01, 2008
"Microsoft, with Windows Mobile/ActiveSync, Nokia with Intellisync, and Motorola with Good Technology have all fared poorly in the enterprise. We have no reason to expect otherwise from Apple." - Peter Misek, Canaccord Adams analyst, March 07, 2008
"[Apple should sell 7.9 million iPhones in 2008]... Apple's goal of selling 10 million iPhones this year is optimistic" - Toni Sacconaghi, Bernstein Research analyst, February 22, 2008
"What does the iPhone offer that other cell phones do not already offer, or will offer soon? The answer is not very much... Apple's stated goal of selling 10 million iPhones by the end of 2008 seems ambitious" - Laura Goldman, LSG Capital, May 21, 2007
"Motorola's then-Chairman and then-CEO Ed Zander said his company was ready for competition from Apple's iPhone, due out the following month. "How do you deal with that?" Zander was asked at the Software 2007 conference. Zander quickly retorted, "How do they deal with us?" - Ed Zander, May 10, 2007
"The iPhone is going to be nothing more than a temporary novelty that will eventually wear off" - Gundeep Hora, CoolTechZone Editor-in-Chief, April 02, 2007
"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone... What Apple risks here is its reputation as a hot company that can do no wrong. If it's smart it will call the iPhone a 'reference design' and pass it to some suckers to build with someone else's marketing budget. Then it can wash its hands of any marketplace failures... Otherwise I'd advise people to cover their eyes. You are not going to like what you'll see" - John C. Dvorak, Bloated Gas Bag, March 28, 2007
"Even if [the iPhone] is opened up to third parties, it is difficult to see how the installed base of iPhones can reach the level where it becomes a truly attractive service platform for operator and developer investment" - Tony Cripps, Ovum Service Manager for Mobile User Experience, March 14, 2007
"I'm more convinced than ever that, after an initial frenzy of publicity and sales to early adopters, iPhone sales will be unspectacular... iPhone may well become Apple's next Newton" - David Haskin, Computerworld, February 26, 2007
"There's an old saying -- stick to your knitting -- and Apple is not a mobile phone manufacturer, that's not their knitting... I think people overreacted to it -- there was not a lot of tremendously new stuff if you think about it" - Greg Winn, Telstra's operations chief, February 15, 2007
"Consumers are not used to paying another couple hundred bucks more just because Apple makes a cool product. Some fans will buy [iPhone], but for the rest of us it's a hard pill to swallow just to have the coolest thing" - Neil Strother, NPD Group analyst, January 22, 2007
"I can't believe the hype being given to iPhone... I just have to wonder who will want one of these things (other than the religious faithful)... So please mark this post and come back in two years to see the results of my prediction: I predict they will not sell anywhere near the 10M Jobs predicts for 2008" - Richard Sprague, Microsoft Senior Marketing Director, January 18, 2007
"The iPhone's willful disregard of the global handset market will come back to haunt Apple" - Tero Kuittinen, RealMoney.com, January 18, 2007
"[Apple's iPhone] is the most expensive phone in the world and it doesn't appeal to business customers because it doesn't have a keyboard which makes it not a very good email machine... So, I, I kinda look at that and I say, well, I like our strategy. I like it a lot" - Steve Ballmer, Microsoft CEO, January 17, 2007
"The iPhone is nothing more than a luxury bauble that will appeal to a few gadget freaks. In terms of its impact on the industry, the iPhone is less relevant... Apple is unlikely to make much of an impact on this market... Apple will sell a few to its fans, but the iPhone won't make a long-term mark on the industry" - Matthew Lynn, Bloomberg, January 15, 2007
"iPhone which doesn't look, I mean to me, I'm looking at this thing and I think it's kind of trending against, you know, what's really going, what people are really liking on, in these phones nowadays, which are those little keypads. I mean, the Blackjack from Samsung, the Blackberry, obviously, you know kind of pushes this thing, the Palm, all these... And I guess some of these stocks went down on the Apple announcement, thinking that Apple could do no wrong, but I think Apple can do wrong and I think this is it" - John C. Dvorak, Bloated Gas Bag, January 13, 2007
"I am pretty skeptical. I don't think [iPhone] will meet the fantastic predictions I have been reading. For starters, while Apple basically established the market for portable music players, the phone market is already established, with a number of major brands. Can Apple remake the phone market in its image? Success is far from guaranteed" - Jack Gold, founder and principal analyst at J. Gold Associates, January 11, 2007
"Apple will launch a mobile phone in January, and it will become available during 2007. It will be a lovely bit of kit, a pleasure to behold, and its limited functionality will be easy to access and use. The Apple phone will be exclusive to one of the major networks in each territory and some customers will switch networks just to get it, but not as many as had been hoped. As customers start to realise that the competition offers better functionality at a lower price, by negotiating a better subsidy, sales will stagnate. After a year a new version will be launched, but it will lack the innovation of the first and quickly vanish. The only question remaining is if, when the iPod phone fails, it will take the iPod with it" - Bill Ray, The Register, December 26, 2006
"The economics of something like [an Apple iPhone] aren't that compelling" - Rod Bare, Morningstar analyst, December 08, 2006
"Apple is slated to come out with a new phone... And it will largely fail.... Sales for the phone will skyrocket initially. However, things will calm down, and the Apple phone will take its place on the shelves with the random video cameras, cell phones, wireless routers and other would-be hits... When the iPod emerged in late 2001, it solved some major problems with MP3 players. Unfortunately for Apple, problems like that don't exist in the handset business. Cell phones aren't clunky, inadequate devices. Instead, they are pretty good. Really good" - Michael Kanellos, CNET, December 07, 2006
"We've learned and struggled for a few years here figuring out how to make a decent phone. PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They're not going to just walk in" - Ed Colligan, Palm CEO, November 16, 2006
EDIT: 4 MONTHS LATER - MAY 2010: now we can add some predictions about the iPad right from this forum:
GWarner wrote:
That the iPad doesn't support it and probably never will if Jobs has his way, could be the end of the iPad before it even gets started.
Kuron wrote:
iPad may end up being a bigger failure than Apple TV and Newton combined.
Num3 wrote:
It's gonna be a flop... an IFlop ...
The actual numbers keep coming, as with the iPhone before.
Honestly I can't label those numbers as a flop. But we will see.
I still think iPad is better positioned than the original iPhone. It can stands on the apple store and that alone is an outstanding advantage against the original iPhone and the current competition.
And it has a legion of developers already trained on the iPhone, using the same API and OS.
It's really weird to not see that. To not have seen that already 4 months ago.
EDIT: May 31, 2010
Apple (AAPL) announced Monday that iPad sales had topped 2 million units, less than 60 days since it launched the tablet computer on April 3.
EDIT: June 18, 2010
Samsung Electronics will start volume shipments of 9.7-inch panels for the Apple iPad in July with monthly shipments reaching 300,000-500,000 units.
LG Display shipped about 800,000-900,000 9.7-inch iPad panels in May, up from over 700,000 units in April, 470,000 units in March, and 300,000 units in February..
Monthly shipments of the iPad have reached 1.2 million units, up from the 700,000 units per month when the product first introduced to the market.
EDIT: June 21, 2010
a bad prediction
GWarner wrote:
I don't see it affecting Kindle, Nook, or the Sony readers at all.
a good prediction JUST AFTER iPad announcement
Douglas A. McIntyre wrote:
January 28, 2010
Amazon will cut the Kindle price and that means it will probably do no better than break even on its e-reader/e-book business for the next year and perhaps longer. That is the sacrifice it will have to make to keep Apple from taking the market away.
Amazon.com (AMZN) this afternoon (June 21, 2010) announced that it has cut the price of the Kindle to $189, from $259.
The move follows news this morning that Barnes & Noble has dropped the price of the 3G version of Nook to $199, from $259.
Really no idea why.
EDIT: June 22, 2010
Some more iPad trumpet-blowing from Apple (AAPL): The company
sold three million iPads as of Monday.
80 days after the U.S. launch. That’s approximately 37,500 iPads a day–1,562 per hour, 26 per minute and .434 per second.
The current pace of iPad sales means Apple appears on track to blow the doors off most analyst estimates, who were predicting 5-6 millions in
the first Y-E-A-R.
EDIT: June 29, 2010
Amazon.com's Kindle bookstore introduced a new multimedia feature yesterday. Authors now have the ability to embed video and audio clips into their digital reads. A travel guide now has walking-tour clips. A cookbook has recipe videos. A birdsong primer offers actual audio examples of birdcalls.
There's a catch. This update isn't part of Amazon's actual Kindle e-reader. It's an upgrade to the Kindle's Apple Store program for iPad, iPhone, and iPod touch owners.
Amazon is putting out a better product for the non-Kindle owning crowd, probably the first step in the right direction to kill their Kindle by themself, trying to survive inside you-know-what.
EDIT: July 6, 2010
Sony (SNE) has reduced the price of its low-end Reader Pocket Edition to $150, from $170.
The Touch Edition reader goes to $170, from $200, and the high Daily Edition model is now $300, down from $350.
Again, really no idea why.
EDIT: October 27, 2011
Amazon.com's escalating pursuit of Apple squeezed its profit forecast for this quarter, prompting investors to erase US$13 billion from the company's market value.
The company is taking on Apple in the market for tablet computers and sales of digital songs, books and movies. To gain an edge in tablets, Amazon is selling its new Kindle Fire device for as low as US$199 - less than half the price of Apple's cheapest iPad. At that price, the company will lose between US $10 - $50 per device while the iPad 2 is turning a profit of 30 percent of its MSRP.
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