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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:13 pm
by ts-soft
> Forget about cross-platform, there's no money in it.
For small highprice special-application there is a big market on MacOS
For Server-Application is a big market on Linux.
The windows-market is to filled to make money. Only games have a small
chance.
yust my 2 cents
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:29 pm
by utopiomania
The windows-market is to filled to make money
Pfft, just like the market in general. Filled up with bored people waiting for something better to buy.
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:36 pm
by Kiffi
ts-soft wrote:The windows-market is to filled to make money.
i don't think so. since almost 15 years i earn my money with coding windows-
programs. and there is no end in sight.
(and i do not know a customer who needs applications for
several
OS. Either Windows, Linux or MacOS)
Greetings ... Kiffi
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:52 pm
by Kale
utopiomania wrote:C# & .NET is the best RAD tool. You can also compile your apps for other OSes using Mono
I've corrected that for you.
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:14 pm
by Kiffi
Kale wrote:utopiomania wrote:C# & .NET is the best RAD tool. You can also compile your apps for other OSes using Mono
I've corrected that for you.
VB.Net = C#
(mostly; the differences are very small)
Greetings ... Kiffi
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:39 pm
by the.weavster
Kiffi wrote: i do not know a customer who needs applications for several OS. Either Windows, Linux or MacOS)
But if your chosen programming language is cross-platform you can use it irrespective of your customers chosen OS, so you're not using one for Windows, another for Linux and yet another for Mac.
I'm certainly not suggesting RB Pro is as good as VB.NET though.
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:15 am
by thanos
Kale wrote:utopiomania wrote:C# & .NET is the best RAD tool. You can also compile your apps for other OSes using Mono
I've corrected that for you.
Did anybody already used the Mono project?
Is it reliable?
Regards.
Thanos
before PB
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:02 am
by glops
I tried REVOLUTION studio, but because we could not call windows API, com and active X, and because it was very expensive, I left this tool.
Was interesting, but their licenses were too bad.
RealBasic was cool too, I tried it, but expensive too.
Some ideas can be foung in PureForm, but I agree a real GUI should be created for PB, and after that all the PB users could feel happy like KCC.
because PB is a great tool, forum is wonderful, ressources are great, language powerful.
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:32 am
by Kale
thanos wrote:Did anybody already used the Mono project?
Is it reliable?
I've used it and it's solid. It has support for all C# 3.0 features (plus VB 8, Java, Python, Ruby, Eiffel, F# and Oxygene) and most of the .NET framework is finished. It even has support for ASP.NET, ADO.NET, and Windows.Forms 2.0. The only thing it doesn't support at the minute is WWF and WPF. You can also use
MoMa to aid with migration of your assemblies.
Check it out:
http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:47 pm
by thanos
Thank you for the suggestion.
Unfortunately, this tool is very limited.
Regards
Thanos
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:55 pm
by thanos
@glops
glops wrote:I tried REVOLUTION studio, but because we could not call windows API, com and active X, and because it was very expensive, I left this tool. Was interesting, but their licenses were too bad.
I used this tool. I believe this language is "voluble". And i agree with you for its license. It is horrible.
@Kale
Thank you very much. I know the Mono's project features but i never tested it before.
What about Delphi?
Is there anyone Delphi programmer in the forum?
Regards
Thanos
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:32 pm
by mrniceguy1971
Take a look at
http://www.codegear.com/products/delphi/prism.
It could be interesting for you.
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:49 pm
by thanos
Thanks.
It is very interesting.
Regards.
Thanos
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:45 pm
by thanos
Another two seems to be interesting tools are the
1.
Windev
2.
Runtime Revolution
Does anybody have any experience with these products?
Regards.
Thanos
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:43 am
by Mistrel
Kale wrote:PB wrote:The Visual Designer needs a lot of
work. A real lot.
Agreed, a good solid IDE with an integrated form designer would move PB forward leaps and bounds.
Agreed. Even something as basic as Visual Studio's form designer would be a great improvement. Personally, I would like to see integrated UML modeling which updates to and from the project source code.