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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:15 pm
by ricardo
Mistrel wrote:You'll be marketing a niche product to a niche community. If you're happy with that then go for it.
Thats the point. A very small community cant produce much sales.

Every product anyone develope will, in best cases, sell to 1% or 2% of potential customers (or less).
2% of PureBasic user is a very low amount of customers.

Another point:
I think most people uses jaPBe, which points that people needs or wants something that the official IDE are not giving to users. So, the need is there...

One more:
If suddenly jaPBe becomes shareware, i can pay for it, because i really need it.

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:23 pm
by rsts
ricardo wrote:
Mistrel wrote:You'll be marketing a niche product to a niche community. If you're happy with that then go for it.
Thats the point. A very small community cant produce much sales.

Every product anyone develope will, in best cases, sell to 1% or 2% of potential customers (or less).
2% of PureBasic user is a very low amount of customers.
I believe Kale understands the PB 'niche' market better than most people :)

cheers

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:54 pm
by Heathen
In all honesty, I really have no reason to switch to anything else, especially if it costs me money.

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:28 pm
by Foz
Just curious Kale, but based on the comments and figures in the poll, will you be creating this IDE or is it not worth the time?

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:58 pm
by Kale
Foz wrote:Just curious Kale, but based on the comments and figures in the poll, will you be creating this IDE or is it not worth the time?
Nah, i'll not bother. :wink:

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:16 am
by zikitrake
I would pay without doubting it (If the environment is seemed to what I knew with VB6)

Sorry for my (very) bad english

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:23 pm
by LuCiFeR[SD]
I voted maybe... I hate to be anonymous :P

Truth is, When I used blitz (and the IDE for blitz was, no, STILL IS terrible lol...)and then Rob "loki" Hutchinson Developed Protean and it made made mine and many other peoples lives easier. He too targetted a niche market, and did ok, but it was a shame that University and then work got in the way etc.

But if it was as nice to work with as Visual studio, or even nicking some of its cool features (just like protean did) I'd happilly part with the money :). Hell, you could offer it with your book for *Discount* and make a few quid that way too LOL. Throw in a few tutorials on getting the best out of your IDE your onto a winner :)

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:42 pm
by DoubleDutch
I voted no, I don't really like project management in an IDE - I just like to get straight to coding.

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:48 pm
by eddy
solution manager
- classic
an integrated VD
- it would be cool

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:11 pm
by npath
Kale,

Perhaps consider writing another PB book with advanced topics. You are likely to get more sales with this, since there are no other books except your introductory book. Just a thought.

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:22 pm
by PB
> A very small community cant produce much sales

Only Fred himself knows how small the community is. We can't just assume
that it's only made up of the people who actively post here.

> I think most people uses jaPBe

That's just speculation too.

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:24 pm
by PB
@Kale: I'd buy any app that works like the Visual Basic environment and
doesn't produce bloated code. I say you should go for it. After all, many
of us didn't know your book was coming and were happily surprised and
bought it, so please do the same for your app. :)

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:23 pm
by Hurga
Hm, for me it depends...

I tried PBDev an dI´m one of those guys who like to change the code and work on it for myself... so PBDev was not my choise

With the PD IDE it annoys me, that there is no code intendation, (which helps me keeping the overview.. ;-) ), so it isnt my choise, too

So the last one is jaPBe... thats my choise... I like it and I´m happy with it.

When I think about a new IDE, with integrated VD and so on...
My first impulse is - ok, fine...
Second my toughts go that way..
... maintainance... (GPI disapears, cos jaPBE is opensource, it will be supported ...)
... does it simplify me coder-life? With large projects and also with small ones?

If it is YES, then the last point is the price.
I would say Yes with a price about 10-20$, without hesitation, with 30-40$ ...maybe... but for me its a bit too high for buying without good arguments...

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:55 pm
by PB
> So the last one is jaPBe... thats my choise...

So jaPBe has a form designer now? :shock: I'll have to have another look.

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:36 pm
by Hurga
Nop, it doesnt... but I just like it... ;-)