Pin out for composite video and S-Video?

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:07 am

http://www.2shared.com/file/2793421/fce ... rplay.html

thats my latest track. (its my first complete track actually, and the next one will be much better. and yes i do write other stuff than trance, also piano pieces and various things. I can do just about anything in my head - the problem is getting it out. That comes rapidly, though.)

And I try to "make friends" as I may need a song/sound for an upcoming PB-project Embarassed

scholly, just ignoring fools and sensations

omgfz u just lost a phriend who do musique! i do no audio now rest my life i'l just go round banging the drums

(just joking about german though, i love germans!)
I got lots of stuff in my head just need to get it out. The melodies are hard to program, but i will master it one day if i keep trying. Everybody can do what they want if they just want it enough right?

Irene · Post by **Irene** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:16 am

harff182 wrote:[..]And I try to "make friends" as I may need a song/sound for an upcoming PB-project :oops: [..]
[..]Linux has never been a way for me - please, keep this in mind, when reading my answers or recommendations :roll:[..]
[..]FMPOV, your system is well enough to use the cheapest TV-cards for analog video around, the old Hauppauge WIN-TVs.[..]

I am everyones friend and will always be (to some extent in most cases ^_^). If you ever feel you need music for your needs, then please PM me with as much detail as you can about the track. I do not really care for what you need the track, even if it was for a home party or you want just listen to something new/original. I think I will get the Hauppauge Impact VCB, because it is Brook Tree based meaning that the source will be directly fed to the PC application making sure there is no latency. I have no problems with audio connections, I can just as well hook up auxiliary audio through a combinator to the line in of my sound card.

Always a friend my dear,
Irene

harff182 · Post by **harff182** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:29 am

Irene wrote: I think I will get the Hauppauge Impact VCB, because it is Brook Tree based meaning that the source will be directly fed to the PC application making sure there is no latency.

If you read http://www.hauppauge.de/pages/products/ ... ctvcb.html , you find other infos: no TV-Tuner, no Brook Tree (FUSION 878). Don't know, whether that makes a difference for the capture-tool of your choice (the ones shipped by HAuppauge don't have the best reputation)

Irene · Post by **Irene** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:37 am

harff182 wrote:
Irene wrote: I think I will get the Hauppauge Impact VCB, because it is Brook Tree based meaning that the source will be directly fed to the PC application making sure there is no latency.
If you read http://www.hauppauge.de/pages/products/ ... ctvcb.html , you find other infos: no TV-Tuner, no Brook Tree (FUSION 878). Don't know, whether that makes a difference for the capture-tool of your choice (the ones shipped by HAuppauge don't have the best reputation)

http://www.bttv-gallery.de/ wrote:chips: Fusion 878A 25878-13, 24lc02, xtal28
connectors: Cvid, Cvid, Cvid, Svid (7pol)
pcb: 640000-03 (c) 2000

bttv0: Bt878 (rev 17) at 00:11.0, irq: 9, latency: 32, mmio: 0xe4101000
bttv0: detected: Hauppauge WinTV [card=10], PCI subsystem ID is 0070:13eb
bttv0: gpio: en=00000000, out=00000000 in=00ffffff [init #1]
bttv0: Hauppauge eeprom: model=64405, tuner=Unspecified (4), radio=no

detect
0xa0: eeprom
0xa2: ???
0xa4: ???
0xa6: ???
0xa8: ???
0xaa: ???
0xac: ???
0xae: ???

eeprom -x
0000 84 12 00 00 05 50 0e 7f 01 02 23 95 fb 00 10 8d .....P..........
0010 00 00 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 aa bb ...........w....
0020 40 00 74 02 01 00 00 79 39 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ..t....y9.......
0030 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0040 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0050 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0060 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0070 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 13 eb 00 70 ...............p
wdh.

PCI Vendor ID: 0x0070, Subsystem ID: 0x13eb
Decoding Hauppauge EEPROM:
Model : 64405
Revision : C1
Serial : 4242346
Tuner : Unspecified
Tuner Formats: unknown1
Ext. Inputs : 3
Svideo : yes
Audio : None
Audio Outputs: None
Decoder : BT878
Video Formats: NTSC(M) PAL(BGHIDK) SECAM(L/L´) PAL(M) PAL(N) NTSC(443) PAL(NCOMBO)
Videotext : Yes (Software)
Radio : no
Infrared : no
Checksum : 39 [OK]
EEPROM:
84 12 00 00 05 50 0e 7f 01 02 23 95 fb 00 10 8d 00 00 00 00 00
84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 aa bb 40 00
74 02 01 00 00
79 39

The Fusion 878A chip is a Brook Tree chip (BT878). I do not need a TV tuner at all, video capturing is all I need, otherwise I would go for the Hauppauge WinTV PVR 150. Also, I do not want to record video sources but have them rendered in real time. For example I would like to hook up my VCR so I can watch old VHS movies in realtime on my TFT display... Recording them is not necessary for me ^_^
I heard bad things about the Hauppauge software too, but I will be using either MythTV or tvtime on GNU/Linux (do not worry, just make suggestions for Windows XP as I have that too in case I can not find equivalents for GNU/Linux).

Cheers,
Irene

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:38 am

Irene wrote:I am everyones friend and will always be (to some extent in most cases ^_^)

oh yeah just look at that. Really clever statement, do you think harff is a dorf or something to see what you just did in the other thread?

harff182: don't annoy the wrong people

Irene · Post by **Irene** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:45 am

What's so difficult to understand in _most cases_? Harff is my Liebling and you better go out of the picture. Shoosh!

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:48 am

Oh thats fine. But harff should know its impossible to ignore me without being killed dead

http://www.2shared.com/file/2793421/fce ... rplay.html

one day i'll be in your radio too, harff. Just you wait. you want to see my mr bad side?

Fluid Byte · Post by **Fluid Byte** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:04 am

thefool wrote:one day i'll be in your radio too, harff. Just you wait. you want to see my mr bad side?

I can confim that, it's good!

He still needs to work on the build up's but ain't that bad.

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:05 am

Fluid Byte wrote:
thefool wrote:one day i'll be in your radio too, harff. Just you wait. you want to see my mr bad side?
I can confim that, it's good!
He still needs to work on the build up's but ain't that bad.

Thanks

Yeah there is a lot of work. But the only thing to do is to practice

I'll make sure you get a copy of the next track when its done.

appreciate your feedback mate.

i bring a laptop on the ski'ing vacation so i can work a bit on the melodies and leads. And on programming the synths to my likings [just bought tone2 gladiator a few days ago, and various mastering tools. Lots of stuff to read. now i just hope i'm fresh and that there isn't too much afterskiing going on eh]

harff182 · Post by **harff182** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:43 am

Irene wrote:I do not want to record video sources but have them rendered in real time. For example I would like to hook up my VCR so I can watch old VHS movies in realtime on my TFT display... Recording them is not necessary for me

In this case the WinTV2000 Applikation might be enough, though I would prefer WinTV32 for the more clear layout

And if its not a high-end VCR with 1st-class-tapes and you don't have well trained eyes, don't mess with the S-Video, just use the cheap standard Composite-SCART connections, IMHO that would be enough.

guts nächtle... scholly

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:44 am

oh there you go again huh

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:55 am

did i scare you or something?

Irene · Post by **Irene** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:20 am

thefool wrote:did i scare you or something? :P

Just wait... time will tell.

inc. · Post by **inc.** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:10 am

After going through thgis amount of postings where I did try to find the real issue I think I figured out whats the point.

SVideo capturing only makes sense IF the source also is provided as separate luma and chroma signals. Analogue TV is not, so F-Bas, Composite Connection will probably result in the same quality.

All those cheap capturing cards do come with a software mpeg2 encoding which in 99,9% is crappy - btw. those hardware encodings of the Haupauge cards as well.

The main focus should be set on the signal handling quality of the specific card. Newer Connexant BT878 or the verrry proofed Phillips SA7134 cards do result in a very good quality (using free VirtualDub for capturing or VirtualVCR). The final resulting videostream can (I know you dont need it Irene) be streamed using an almost lossless videocodec like HuffYUV or mjpeg at top quality output.

Final encodigs to mpeg2 should be done using (even free) software like HCenc which does result in a much higher quality.

I didn't catch you speak german. Greets from Cologne.

harff182 · Post by **harff182** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:14 pm

Irene wrote:Just wait... time will tell.

The Fat Four already have told, seems they knew him: http://www.lyricsondemand.com/b/beatles ... yrics.html

(^_^)/~~