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> Check this google search for more details
> http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&cl ... arch&meta=

Okay, so I click the link above, and visit the first hit (MUSHclient bug/suggestion #406):

The website for this no longer exits, you can find detailed info on codemax and something called codesense at:
http://www.ticz.com/homes/users/nlewis/index.html

So I click this new link, and we come to a web page stating:

Wow, did you pick a bad time to visit! As you can see, I have pretty much dismantled my site. I haven't had a chance to update it in quite a while, and it was just getting older by the day, so I finally decided to put it out of its misery. Sorry to have wasted your time!

So I go back to the Google search, and select the second hit (vbAccelerator - CodeSense),
and it also leads me to http://www.ticz.com/homes/users/nlewis/Menu.htm, which in turns
leads to the dead page above.

So I go back to the Google search, and select the third hit (Vbscript Interpreter Shell)
which leads to me a page that states at the very bottom:

CodeSense and links to CodeMax resources can be found at the following URL, http://www.ticz.com/homes/users/nlewis/ ... wnload.htm

So I click this link, hoping to get lucky, and AGAIN it leads to the dead page!



The PureBasic VD may be unpolished, but at least it exists...
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> Check it out and try to compare PB's GUI Editor with it

In all seriousness now, let me go over some PureBasic history for you.
It wasn't originally released with a GUI editor. It was all strictly code.
Then the Visual Designer (VD) was released, for free, so there is no guarantee when there are updates, or when it will be available for Linux and Mac.

So, yeah, it's not as polished as other GUI editors, but that's because it's
not meant to be. All work on it is done whenever the author has time. It's
not a priority, and the regulars here know that. As mentioned, there are
other GUI editors out there for your use, including a commercial one which
may satisfy your needs.

If you can't find it please let me know and I will upload or email to your personal email address as attachment, of course if you give me your personal email id.

I am not being instigative, I really would like to see it. I might be able to use it in a current project.

However, we have continually asked and you have been unwilling to post it.

By the way VB IDE is not bloated by any means it is really sleek and fast also.

I have used VB since 1.0 to 6.0. I am very familiae with it. I officially ditched it for all new projects once .NET hit.

Seriously, if you like VB, use it, its now free.

I don't use any of the above mentioned languages.... Have you seen ActiveBasic's IDE, Phonix Basic, Envelop Basic ? Check it out and try to compare PB's GUI Editor with it... why compare with something which is sub standard.

Comparing to something sub-standard is what you are trying to do. Envelop & Phoenix have been dead for how many years now? And envelop was designed as a VB clone. The languages I mentioned are real and currently sold. The GUI editor for PB blows them away.

If you don't like the GUI designer that comes with PB, there is PureForm which is free, and there are two commercial GUI designers for PB.

Its simply not worth the work of changing the editor component, when the benefit is for one platform only.
I simply do not see any feature in your list that would justify such a step.
As i said, the editor is a crossplatform tool, so it needs to work with crossplatform components.

Nobody forces you to use the PB editor/VD if you don't like them.
You are free to use any other product of your choise and interface with the
commandline compiler for compiling.
(there is even a well documented pipe communication for that since 4.10)

JCV wrote:

Yogi Yang wrote:The official site is : http://www.winmain.com/

WinMain Software has folded. This domain is for sale. Contact domainforsale<at>winmain<dot>com if interested.

:roll:

JCV wrote:

WinMain Software has folded. This domain is for sale. Contact domainforsale<at>winmain<dot>com if interested.

:roll:

Yes I also found that out yesterday. It seems the original developer seems to have stopped developing the product.

Scintilla is perfectly fine as it is, and best of all, it's being developed by someone else so the PB-team doesn't have to spend time on it! Because personally I'd prefer if the team spent their time improving the language instead of reinventing the wheel.

Yogi Yang: If you have the source code to the editor that you like, then why not also download the source code to Scintilla and have a go at implementing the changes to make Scintilla have the new features? The source to Scintilla is very easy to read, it has good open support from it's original author who also encourages people to get involved.

Now that Adobe have started using Scintilla in editing utilities there may me more improvements/bug fixes from them? Also, don't forget that the version of Scintilla that the PB team are currently using is not the latest version - there have been improvements to speed, features and bug fixes. But at present I think they are far too busy improving PureBasic itself than to update to the latest version of the editor component. I think they will eventually though.

here's an idea not sure if it works but here goes. download SciTE from http://scintilla.sourceforge.net/SciTEDownload.html
and rename SciLexer.DLL to Scintilla.dll to update it .

P.s. am not sure if its that simple or not

I didn't realise they used the DLL, I thought they used a static version. You learn something new everyday.

btw The *very latest* version is V1.75, I don't think that it is officially available yet. Loads of things fixed/improvements/faster over PB's V1.73 ...

freak wrote:(btw, you forgot to mention the url where your component can be found )

I just found out that what I am referring to (code max code sense) is already used in JaPBe!